*Official* New Zealand tour of India 2024

[SteveNZ]

I think umpire's call is fine because of that uncertainty - if you're going to overturn a decision it should be with clear evidence, not just replacing one uncertain decision with another one. But yeah that decision I feel didn't meet the threshold of certainty I feel a good umpire should employ.

My argument always has been that you're replacing uncertainty with irrefutably more certainty. I've never seen a sufficient argument to sway me and I've never felt that cricketers couldn't handle it that if the ball was showing to be clipping at X% (less than 50% for loose argument's sake) and was, across the board, adjudicated to be not out.

I know as a fan I've felt wild where a decision has been upheld because it was just clipping, and knowing that dismissal existed because of the split second decision making with numerous swinging factors in place, not simply on technology (yes i know it is not 100% accurate)

 

[Moss]

I think that's a very poor decision if that's the case; you need to give the new bloke confidence and stability and messing around with the batting order just for that reason doesn't help.

Normally would agree, but as a one-off tactic I dont mind it. The opposition’s main spinner is finding it much easier against the RHBs, Latham would probably bring him right back in if there were 2 of them. If this partnership builds and takes out the deficit, Sarfraz coming in later can do some real damage.

EDIT: He’s brought Ajaz back now, should be an interesting passage.

 

[Spark]

My argument always has been that you're replacing uncertainty with irrefutably more certainty. I've never seen a sufficient argument to sway me and I've never felt that cricketers couldn't handle it that if the ball was showing to be clipping at X% (less than 50% for loose argument's sake).

I know as a fan I've felt wild where a decision has been upheld because it was just clipping, and knowing that dismissal existed because of the split second decision making with numerous swinging factors in place, not simply on technology (yes i know it is not 100% accurate)

We won't ever know the answer until we see actual probabilistic projections! I would love to see that data one day but I don't think we will.

 

[Spark]

In fact I am going to say something probably quite controversial: in my ideal world, with a tweaked LBW law, that would have been not out. Just straight up not out. Does not meet the threshold of certainty required to dismiss a batsman, therefore not out. But I won't go on too much about how overly expansive I think the LBW law is again.

 

[SteveNZ]

In fact I am going to say something probably quite controversial: in my ideal world, with a tweaked LBW law, that would have been not out. Just straight up not out. Does not meet the threshold of certainty required to dismiss a batsman, therefore not out. But I won't go on too much about how overly expansive I think the LBW law is again.

I agree. But I don't think you mean after review, or do you?

 

[Spark]

I agree. But I don't think you mean after review, or do you?

Not out full stop. 2mm of the ball projected to shave the stumps should not be grounds to dismiss a batsman. At all.

 

[King Kane]

We have dried the runs up, it helps that Pant isn't out there anymore.

 

[SteveNZ]

Not out full stop. 2mm of the ball projected to shave the stumps should not be grounds to dismiss a batsman. At all.

Youve got my vote

 

[wellAlbidarned]

Not out full stop. 2mm of the ball projected to shave the stumps should not be grounds to dismiss a batsman. At all.

I know you're a physicist not an engineer, but is there a reason why we don't just put a tiny accelerometer and tracking chip inside the ball?

 

[KungFu_Kallis]

Not out full stop. 2mm of the ball projected to shave the stumps should not be grounds to dismiss a batsman. At all.

May as well make the stumps 2mm narrower then lol. Hitting is hitting

 

[honestbharani]

I don't think his hands have even touched it

#notadrop then.

 

[Spark]

I know you're a physicist not an engineer, but is there a reason why we don't just put a tiny accelerometer and tracking chip inside the ball?

We could but the more technology we put into the game the more I worry about the elite level of the game and every other level of the game operating effectively under two different sets of rules.

 

[honestbharani]

The Indian supporters celebrating hard, do they realise this is a dead rubber?

You are blaming a crowd for cheering their team when they are playing well? Do you hate life itself?

 

[Meridio]

I know you're a physicist not an engineer, but is there a reason why we don't just put a tiny accelerometer and tracking chip inside the ball?

I wouldn't be sure that would actually be any more accurate than however many high frame rate cameras Hawkeye uses tbh

 

[honestbharani]

Our fielding standards have been pure ****ing garbage for years now. Its one area of the game which can be controlled to an extent through work.

Do the work.

Well, we lost the first two tests more by bad catching than anything else IMO. I guess it might be happening to you guys now.

Perhaps that is one other impact of T20s we forget. Those games move so fast that drops are forgotten in a jiffy and have become pretty commonplace. Maybe this is the new normal for test match fielding as well and we just have to get used to it.

 

[Meridio]

We won't ever know the answer until we see actual probabilistic projections! I would love to see that data one day but I don't think we will.

Ha, I would kinda like this as a behind the scenes sort of feature on ball projection but don't think it would ever work trying to translate it for the everyday audience

 

[honestbharani]

Gill is never convincing even when he bats well. His technique just looks off against pace and spin both.

Very Aussie like. Looks awful against the ball that moves sideways - seam, swing or spin.

 

[honestbharani]

I was going to say we've got to 2-0 through taking the majority of our chances, but is that true?

It is. You have been far better than us catchingwise and I think its been the difference inspite of our 4 batting lollapses.

 

[Bahnz]

I can recall 4 relatively straightforward chances missed in the first two tests. Not the worst in the world but still sub-par for the standards the team set c 2015 - 2021.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

We won't ever know the answer until we see actual probabilistic projections! I would love to see that data one day but I don't think we will.

god I dream of a proper stats nerd cricket broadcast

gimme markov chain simulations to decide if they should bring long on into the circle for the spinner