Unpopular Cricket Opinions

[Starfighter]

Nah. A lot flat track games end up as draws. A batsman performing in difficult conditions is going to generate more wins on balance IMO. Unless you're playing an overwhelming majority of your cricket on flat tracks

What's underrated is the ability to score quickly on flat tracks

So are you saying you don't want bring back matches where 550 in 180 overs goes up against 650 in 230?

 

[Starfighter]

Actually, I've got an opinion that's considered tantamount to treason in Australia. All but the very best leg spinners suck and will lose you matches far more often than they'll win them, and you're almost always better off with a decent finger spinner.

 

[Coronis]

Actually, I've got an opinion that's considered tantamount to treason in Australia. All but the very best leg spinners suck and will lose you matches far more often than they'll win them, and you're almost always better off with a decent finger spinner.

Nah I think this is definitely true. Probably why people claim legspin is the hardest art and offspin the easiest. You look at the top spinners and almost all of them are finger spinners but you have the few wrist spinners that are extremely special concentrated near the top. Then a ton of finger spinners before you get to other wrist spinners.

Australia having Grimmett and O’Reilly simultaneously is one of the craziest things.

 

[shortpitched713]

The landscape for wristpinners is even worse if you only consider post WWII.

And recently who has even looked a good "prospect" for a lustrous test career? It was Yasir Shah, and like nobody.

 

[Thala_0710]

The landscape for wristpinners is even worse if you only consider post WWII.

And recently who has even looked a good "prospect" for a lustrous test career? It was Yasir Shah, and like nobody.

Kuldeep maybe, kaneria was decent in the 2000s but noone else really

 

[shortpitched713]

Certainly Kuldeep, had forgot about him. Honestly really dissapointed this Test with the old Ashwin Jadeja firm, that have served India for so long.

If India lose this one (looking likely), then third Test I drop them both, to make room for Kuldeep in the side, personally. It's a good a time as any to take stock for the future.

 

[sayon basak]

Kohli is medicore test batsman
Babar azam is massively overated
Ben strokes is crap vs spin

The last two should be the general consensus.

 

[nightprowler10]

Yeah maybe. But for me personally outside of Batman himself and a few major antagonists, most of the rest of it is pretty mid. They're not directly comparable anyway imo, but Spiderman has greater variety and a more consistently interesting supporting cast for mine.

I took away my like from the other post. What a wild opinion.

 

[nightprowler10]

The only victims of Mohammed Aamer's supposed crimes were degenerate gamblers and if he was say James Anderson he would've got suspended for a year at most.

This reminds me of a truly unpopular opinion I have and resulted in a pile-on when I last shared it. Aamer did less damage to the game than the likes of Faisal Iqbal who were only in the side due to nepotism. This opinion came about when post-ban Aamer (whom I hated) got into a fight with Faisal and I said 'good on him'.

 

[sledger]

I took away my like from the other post. What a wild opinion.

I'm a very wild person.

 

[sayon basak]

I'm a very domestic person.

Sounds more like it.

 

[sledger]

Sounds more like it.

I daresay to people like you it probably does, yes.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Actually, I've got an opinion that's considered tantamount to treason in Australia. All but the very best leg spinners suck and will lose you matches far more often than they'll win them, and you're almost always better off with a decent finger spinner.

This is true because good wrist spinners are so rare (and you have to be very good to not be a detriment), whereas a serviceable off spinner is extremely common.

 

[Starfighter]

Nah I think this is definitely true. Probably why people claim legspin is the hardest art and offspin the easiest. You look at the top spinners and almost all of them are finger spinners but you have the few wrist spinners that are extremely special concentrated near the top. Then a ton of finger spinners before you get to other wrist spinners.

Australia having Grimmett and O’Reilly simultaneously is one of the craziest things.

You can agree it's definitely true, but what I'm pointing out is the funny mentality around it.

In my observation the middle-of-the-road legspinner is an exalted species in this country. You say that 'it's the hardest art' yet I reckon that rather than following with the logical conclusion that legspinners are generally less useful, many here do the opposite and treat them as if they average several runs less than they actually do, 'because it's hard'. That's what I'm taking issue with.

 

[TheJediBrah]

You can agree it's definitely true, but what I'm pointing out is the funny mentality around it.

In my observation the middle-of-the-road legspinner is an exalted species in this country. You say that 'it's the hardest art' yet I reckon that rather than following with the logical conclusion that legspinners are generally less useful, many here do the opposite and treat them as if they average several runs less than they actually do, 'because it's hard'. That's what I'm taking issue with.

They do that, IMO, because of the potential upside. For example Lloyd Pope can average 50 at 5.5 rpo in the Shield and still have people with faith in him because he might come good and be exceptionally effective one day. Whereas if a finger spinner came along with similar stats they'd be laughed out the door after a couple games

 

[Chin Music]

As someone who dabbles in spin bowling over the last couple of decades, I can vouch that it is far easier to rock up and bowl finger spin that bowl wrist spin and you can get easy wickets with the finger spinners too. It is easy to inject enough pace on the ball bowling finger spin to be a threat. Much harder to bowl wristies at a pace that upsets good batters, never mind the accuracy.

 

[shortpitched713]

This reminds me of a chat we had about Batman v Spiderman (and I agree with your post, btw).

Peak Ponting/Batman was/is better than/had a higher ceiling that Lara/Tendulkar/Spiderman. But Lara/Tendulkar/Spiderman are/were more consistently at a "great" level.

This is the first time I've ever seen such a "unique" analogy used for these topics. And I am the king of stupid analogies. I've analogized between Fifa 12 characters and Gold/Silver/Crystal generation competitive Pokemon. I've done the top 16 World Cup 2014 teams with a corresponding fighter from Super Street Fighter II. Even have compared and contrasted the 4 gods (+Iron Man) of Marvel and Capcom 2 against the 4 gods (+Wood Duck) of the boardgame Wingspan. But this is new.

I will need some time to reflect on these developments, and give my analysis at a later time.

 

[Coronis]

This is the first time I've ever seen such a "unique" analogy used for these topics. And I am the king of stupid analogies. I've analogized between Fifa 12 characters and Gold/Silver/Crystal generation competitive Pokemon. I've done the top 16 World Cup 2014 teams with a corresponding fighter from Super Street Fighter II. Even have compared and contrasted the 4 gods (+Iron Man) of Marvel and Capcom 2 against the 4 gods (+Wood Duck) of the boardgame Wingspan. But this is new.

I will need some time to reflect on these developments, and give my analysis at a later time.

Rarely see people do this with Pokemon, let alone Gen 2 competitive of all things.

 

[SteveNZ]

4) I actually rate pre 1900 players

How

 

[kyear2]

First thought after seeing this image is kyear2 sprouting off about how good an ATG Test batsman Barry Richards is

A bit late to this one, but sure...

But a battle of the Richards.

Which is crazier, that Viv Richards, arguably the best ever player of fast bowling, and definite top 3, and a Wisden top 5 player of the century isn't a top 10 and "barely" a top 15 batsman. Or....... that Barry, the man who was seen as the best batsman in the world for the first half of the 70's, bridging the gap between Sobers and IVA, who made Cricinfo's 2nd AT team and was one of the highest peer rated batsmen ever is an ATG?