*Official* New Zealand tour of India 2024

[straw man]

after finishing off this magnificent double hundred ofc

 

[straw man]

need to do some analysis on this but I think we're batting way more proactively than past teams against spin. My memories of previous India tours are a lot of nervous prodding from the crease, most of this team are very confident getting down the wicket. Also the reverse sweeps.

My memory doesn't match this, I thought past tours we tried to be proactive but it was just very very difficult, though it's possible my generalisation isn't accurate.

This exception was Taylor, who was horrible with the nervous prodding from the crease, up until he gave up and tried to hit every ball out of the park.

 

[hendrix]

My memory doesn't match this, I thought past tours we tried to be proactive but it was just very very difficult, though it's possible my generalisation isn't accurate.

This exception was Taylor, who was horrible with the nervous prodding from the crease, up until he gave up and tried to hit every ball out of the park.

Use of the reverse sweep as a strike rotation option rather than as a boundary finder has been a pretty notable addition to most of the batsmen's approaches.

That and some very unresponsive captaincy.

 

[Meridio]

Yeah I think India's field settings have been one of the crucial factors. Jadeja and Ashwin may not have been as accurate as usual, though I think that's a bit of a mirage caused by the field settings - there's been singles available everywhere, so even good balls have been nudged into a gap and the strike turned over. That happens a few times and they end up trying to bowl miracle balls, overtoss it or drag it down trying to put too many revs on it and it goes for a boundary. It's a credit to our guys for (largely) taking good options with the bat too, and all these things build on each other and the result is what we're seeing.

 

[Spark]

Use of the reverse sweep as a strike rotation option rather than as a boundary finder has been a pretty notable addition to most of the batsmen's approaches.

That and some very unresponsive captaincy.

It's really getting to the point where you really have to have that shot as a core staple of your game in these conditions if you want to succeed. It turns an otherwise decent stock ball into a relatively safe strike rotation option and honestly it's hard to think of a better recommendation for a stroke in cricket than that.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

It's really getting to the point where you really have to have that shot as a core staple of your game in these conditions if you want to succeed. It turns an otherwise decent stock ball into a relatively safe strike rotation option and honestly it's hard to think of a better recommendation for a stroke in cricket than that.

I don't think it is actually that safe, every time I've looked the runs per dismissal on the reverse are below average. It's effective because it must be so annoying as a bowler having what used to be your bread and butter stock delivery going for runs, most of them won't hold their nerve and play the averages.

if you're a poor player of spin learning to reverse essentially turns the game from "get worked over and eventually caught behind or LBW" to a high variance dice roll, which is a handy thing when you don't have months of time to develop a proper all round spin game.

 

[Coronis]

I don't think it is actually that safe, every time I've looked the runs per dismissal on the reverse are below average. It's effective because it must be so annoying as a bowler having what used to be your bread and butter stock delivery going for runs, most of them won't hold their nerve and play the averages.

if you're a poor player of spin learning to reverse essentially turns the game from "get worked over and eventually caught behind or LBW" to a high variance dice roll, which is a handy thing when you don't have months of time to develop a proper all round spin game.

Where are these stats?

 

[Nintendo]

Where are these stats?

Just how many runs you make per dismissal playing the reverse sweep.

 

[sayon basak]

Root-Brook needs to deliver something huge here.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Root-Brook needs to deliver something huge here.

Don’t think that’s going to save India

 

[sayon basak]

Don’t think that’s going to save England

Nah it will.

 

[Coronis]

Just how many runs you make per dismissal playing the reverse sweep.

Yes, and I’m asking where you’re getting this information?

 

[Nintendo]

Yes, and I’m asking where you’re getting this information?

Misread your post, sorry. Cricbuzz often post them. Bcci hawkeye database may have this? Kimber did a summary on this in India in a recent live.

 

[King Kane]

Hopefully we can add another hundred runs to this lead.

The lead should be enough already but we can't rely on India batting recklessly and throwing away their wickets again.

 

[King Kane]

Nice placement there from Phillips in between the keeper and first slip.

 

[straw man]

Good trick today to score every last run off the edge of the bat.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

Yes, and I’m asking where you’re getting this information?

I scrape cricinfo data and load it up in python. Haven't run the numbers on this specific one recently though, last time I checked it was kinda what you'd expect (below average runs per dismissal but high SR)

 

[Arachnodouche]

Perceived threat level from Ashwin and Jadeja: 0. Can't even keep it quiet. Complete humiliation.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

Rubbish commentary. All they are talking about how good India should bat and not how quickly they should wrap NZ now in order to have a slight chance

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

India going through motion