*Official* New Zealand tour of India 2024

[Gob]

where is scotty kuggeleijn?

what has he ever done to get dropped

 

[Xix2565]

My point moreso, maybe not well made, is that I don't question for a second that we had the better of the conditions. I, however, think a more resilient, backs to the wall Indian side should have made more of the predicament they found themselves in. 46 all out was woeful. 150 was game on and eminently achievable.

Unfair to say when you saw how much seam movement NZ extracted off the deck. I don't see NZ doing much better if things were flipped around and it's not fair to call it inexcusable to collapse vs difficult bowling and conditions. People greatly overestimate how much batters can handle these sorts of situation IMO.

 

[Neil Young]

People greatly overestimate how much batters can handle these sorts of situation IMO.

But they clearly often do. 46 is an outlier, not the norm. Hence the criticism coming India's way.

 

[Xix2565]

But they clearly often do. 46 is an outlier, not the norm. Hence the criticism coming India's way.

That is more on luck than anything inherently problematic with Indian batting. Both teams managed a similar amount of false shots in this game, but one side got 20 wickets and the other didn't. Most of the time teams end up 30-3 before rebuilding when the ball is older.

 

[Xix2565]

I mean if we want to act like every failure is inexcusable regardless of context then that's understandable if silly. If we want to be serious then it's dumb to say.

 

[Bahnz]

Unfair to say when you saw how much seam movement NZ extracted off the deck. I don't see NZ doing much better if things were flipped around and it's not fair to call it inexcusable to collapse vs difficult bowling and conditions. People greatly overestimate how much batters can handle these sorts of situation IMO.

Nah, the dismissals of Rohit, Sarfaraz, Rahul and Jadeja were all pretty dire. Yeah batting was hard, but not 46 all out. Not even 146 all out hard.

 

[Xix2565]

Nah, the dismissals of Rohit, Sarfaraz, Rahul and Jadeja were all pretty dire. Yeah batting was hard, but not 46 all out. Not even 146 all out hard.

Don't disagree on the bad shots, but disagree entirely on conditions being difficult. 46 is just a matter of luck, not some deficiency on display.

 

[Prince EWS]

Don't disagree on the bad shots, but disagree entirely on conditions being difficult. 46 is just a matter of luck, not some deficiency on display.

Batting is inherently high variance and prone to "**** happens" in that way but when so many of the dismissals are that bad it's not all luck.

India have a good batting line up but they batted very poorly.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Also if NZ wins or draws one of the next 2 tests, it really opens things up for Sri Lanka to make the WTC final instead of one of India/Australia. SL will need to do well against SA away though.

 

[ataraxia]

46 is just a matter of luck, not some deficiency on display.

That's a good one.

 

[Neil Young]

46 is just a matter of luck, not some deficiency on display.

Is this genuine?

 

[Xix2565]

Batting is inherently high variance and prone to "**** happens" in that way but when so many of the dismissals are that bad it's not all luck.

India have a good batting line up but they batted very poorly.

That's a good one.

I don't think it's a matter of bad technique though, more like being forced into making poor choices by the bowling. There's no real guarantee that doing a Pujara imitation would've helped in that situation. This doesn't excuse their mistakes though, it's more for understanding why they made them.

But if people want to memeshit then fine by me, it's still a historic beating.

 

[Prince EWS]

I don't think it's a matter of bad technique though, more like being forced into making poor choices by the bowling. There's no real guarantee that doing a Pujara imitation would've helped in that situation. This doesn't excuse their mistakes though, it's more for understanding why they made them.

But if people want to memeshit then fine by me, it's still a historic beating.

Yeah it wasn't poor technique, it was just poor batting on the day.

 

[ankitj]

Batting is inherently high variance and prone to "**** happens" in that way but when so many of the dismissals are that bad it's not all luck.

India have a good batting line up but they batted very poorly.

Plus India also collapsed to 2nd (and 3rd) new ball in 2nd innings. The problems are glaring. Hope Rohit realises that and doesn't make such mistakes at the toss again.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

I'm gonna memeshit

 

[Prince EWS]

I'm gonna memeshit

How unlike you.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

 

[Prince EWS]

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[govinda indian fan]

Wroset match i have seen as indian fan even worse then 2011-12 eng and aus tours **** you kl rahul and ashwin and jadeja are getting old need to be replaced and hope we win next two tests

 

[govinda indian fan]

No rank turners plz that would be playing into nz hands