Best players in certain age ranges

[Coronis]

(I’ll exclude Bradman)

Teenager
Tendulkar 1522 @ 44.76 5 tons
Waqar 55 @ 19.49 5 5’fers
Adams 31 @ 25.06 1 5’fer

Harvey, Miandad and Pollock were all options, but combined they played 10 less matches than Tendulkar so I gave them credit for that. Preferred Adams’ record to the output of Vettori. Waqar no brainer.

20-24
Sobers 3000 @ 68.18 11 tons
Botham 153 @ 20.20 14 5’fers
Underwood 67 @ 16.83 6 5’fers

Botham was actually ridiculous its crazy. Underwood and Warne were quite close.

25-29
Smith 4838 @ 72.20 19 tons
Marshall 197 @ 19.67 13 5’fers
Murali 311 @ 20.75 27 5’fers

30-34
Sangakkara 4380 @ 60.00 16 tons
Hadlee 160 @ 18.06 14 5’fers
Murali 262 @ 19.13 24 5’fers

35-39
Kallis 2163 @ 56.92 10 tons
Hadlee 116 @ 21.39 11 5’fers
Lyon 92 @ 21.79 4 5’fers

Lyon just over Warne (again) has actually had a really well balanced quality record recently.

40+
Hobbs 2440 @ 58.09 8 tons
Barnes 49 @ 10.93 7 5’fers
Grimmett 96 @ 21.11 10 5’fers

Obvious ones. Considered Anderson for a second.

Sanga and Kallis had some competition but I’m happy with those.

 

[Molehill]

I’d have Anderson in the 35-39 range. The exact same average as Hadlee but 61 more wickets.

 

[Coronis]

I’d have Anderson in the 35-39 range. The exact same average as Hadlee but 61 more wickets.

I checked that out but nah. Hadlee averaging 5 wickets a match vs Anderson less than 4. 11 5’fers to 10 and 3 10’fers to 0 in 24 less matches (50 less innings).

Walsh was also a thought but the struggles in Aus/NZ hurt him.

 

[Molehill]

I checked that out but nah. Hadlee averaging 5 wickets a match vs Anderson less than 4. 11 5’fers to 10 and 3 10’fers to 0 in 24 less matches (50 less innings).

Walsh was also a thought but the struggles in Aus/NZ hurt him.

Hadlee didn’t have a bloke taking 600 wickets sharing the new ball with him.

 

[ataraxia]

Hadlee didn’t have a bloke taking 600 wickets sharing the new ball with him.

You do realise that helped Anderson.

 

[mr_mister]

You do realise that helped Anderson.

Did it help his WPM and 5fer stats though?

 

[thierry henry]

Does anyone really believe that Waqar played international cricket as a teenager

 

[Johan]

Does anyone really believe that Waqar played international cricket as a teenager

I see where Rashid Khan takes inspiration from.

 

[Molehill]

Did it help his WPM and 5fer stats though?

I just find it funny that a bloke with 177 wickets at 21.39 between 35-39 has not made it to the list. I suspect Coronis has some deeper issues with Anderson that has impacted his decision making. He was basically bowling at peak career Bumrah and Cummins during that period.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Andersons WPM from 35-39 is only around 3.75.

Peak Cummins and Bumrah are close to 4.5 despite having much tougher home pitches and more competition for wickets.

 

[Starfighter]

Does anyone really believe that Waqar played international cricket as a teenager

Officially he played his first FC match at 16 and 1 1/2 months, test debuted one day shy of 18, and played his last international at 36 and 3 1/2 months. I could believe if he's not his offical age, he's only a year or two older. He did claim his birth year was 1973 well into his career before changing it to 1971.

In comparison Aaqib Javed claims to have made his FC debut at 12 years two months and have finished at 31 years 5 months.

 

[Qlder]

Does anyone really believe that Waqar played international cricket as a teenager

I'm more concerned that Waqar Younis actually debuted 35 years ago (14 Oct '89 for ODI's and 15 Nov '89 for Tests). Way to feel old

 

[Coronis]

I just find it funny that a bloke with 177 wickets at 21.39 between 35-39 has not made it to the list. I suspect Coronis has some deeper issues with Anderson that has impacted his decision making. He was basically bowling at peak career Bumrah and Cummins during that period.

It wasn’t about bias or just looking at raw averages/wickets for any of those selections.

I truly tried to be as fair as possible. I looked in depth at the records for those that weren’t obvious locks.

 

[Molehill]

Andersons WPM from 35-39 is only around 3.75.

Peak Cummins and Bumrah are close to 4.5 despite having much tougher home pitches and more competition for wickets.

Bit of a myth that. English pitches seen a lot of runs recently whilst clearly the likes of Broad, Woakes, Wood, Archer, Stokes never take wickets at all.

 

[Molehill]

It wasn’t about bias or just looking at raw averages/wickets for any of those selections.

I truly tried to be as fair as possible. I looked in depth at the records for those that weren’t obvious locks.

Isn’t the bloke who has taken the most wickets in that age span somewhat more obvious than anyone else?

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Make your own list then, you can even put whoever you like on it.

 

[Molehill]

Make your own list then, you can even put whoever you like on it.

I assumed Coronis put his list here to prompt some discussion, not to just be worshipped like a shrine.

My mistake....

 

[Coronis]

Isn’t the bloke who has taken the most wickets in that age span somewhat more obvious than anyone else?

Why? Does this mean Root is a top 5 test batsman now? Is Broad a top 5 test bowler too?

If I was doing that I would’ve called the thread “Players with the most runs and wickets for certain age ranges”

 

[Coronis]

Isn’t the bloke who has taken the most wickets in that age span somewhat more obvious than anyone else?

Oh and anyway, Walsh beats him by this measure too, in 8 less matches

 

[Bolo.]

I like these picks.

MaybwChanderpaul for 35-39? We all dunk on him for selfish play, but he was a monster at that age.