Jacques Kallis vs Ricky Ponting

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Two undisputed ATG batsmen

 

[kyear2]

Punter dominated in ways Kallis couldn't or didn't care to.

 

[Coronis]

Punter dominated in ways Kallis couldn't or didn't care to.

Kallis hit more 6’s tho.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Kallis averages 4 runs more while playing in the same era and having much tougher home conditions

 

[kyear2]

Ponting scored at an appreciably faster rate, in the process applying pressure to the bolwers and taking some of it away from his colleagues.

He was also capable of adjusting his scoring to meet the requirements of the game. Regardless of circumstance Kallis just went along at his normal rate, abdicating that responsibility to the guy at the other end.

One wrecked and forced game plans to be altered, the other could find himself playing into them.

Ponting was being spoken of as being the best since Bradman, the man who could turn the tide of a match in a session. The one who broke down bowlers, relaxed fields, making it easier for his teammates to come. He was averaging over 60 before the decline at the end, but like for Viv, it's the domination that matters.

 

[Coronis]

Ponting scored at an appreciably faster rate, in the process applying pressure to the bolwers and taking some of it away from his colleagues.

He was also capable of adjusting his scoring to meet the requirements of the game. Regardless of circumstance Kallis just went along at his normal rate, abdicating that responsibility to the guy at the other end.

One wrecked and forced game plans to be altered, the other could find himself playing into them.

Ponting was being spoken of as being the best since Bradman, the man who could turn the tide of a match in a session. The one who broke down bowlers, relaxed fields, making it easier for his teammates to come. He was averaging over 60 before the decline at the end, but like for Viv, it's the domination that matters.

Completely untrue. He played quite a few aggressive innings.

 

[sledger]

Ponting was actually pleasing to watch.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Ricky Ponting

 

[govinda indian fan]

Used to love watching ponting play imo kallis was great but boring just like cook

 

[Silver Silva]

Ponting dominated Kallis when they faced each other in their prime so I'll vote for Punter

 

[Coronis]

Ponting dominated Kallis when they faced each other in their prime so I'll vote for Punter

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I wouldn’t call that domination.

I would also find that a silly way to compare players from different teams with no context.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Ponting was being spoken of as being the best since Bradman

@capt_Luffy

 

[capt_Luffy]

@capt_Luffy

 

[sayon basak]

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Is this an anime character?

 

[capt_Luffy]

Is this an anime character?

Yes. Based on the Light Novel "That time I was an executioner and executed a messiah for a crime he didn't commit, so I got immortality as punishment"

 

[Johan]

Ponting might not be top 10 Batsmen since Bradman ngl, that's excluding the bats that came after him too

 

[kyear2]

Ponting might not be top 10 Batsmen since Bradman ngl, that's excluding the bats that came after him too

I have him on the periphery of the top 10, probably 13 or so.

But don't think many who watched both their careers play out, came away thinking that Kallis was the better of the two.

 

[Johan]

I have him on the periphery of the top 10, probably 13 or so.

But don't think many who watched both their careers play out, came away thinking that Kallis was the better of the two.

I don't either.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

But don't think many who watched both their careers play out, came away thinking that Kallis was the better of the two.

Part of this is an issue of perception (Bolo has discussed this a few times). Players who excel early and get the tag of "great" when young usually keep that tag throughout their careers even when/if they decline. Whereas players who start slow and become great gradually rarely get the same level of acclaim. For a big chunk of their respective careers Ponting was a level ahead of Kallis, and once that perception is ingrained, it's hard to shift, even though the latter stage of their careers favours Kallis heavily. Plus aggressive batsmen are also prone to be overrated in popular consciousness relative to defensive batsmen (which isn't to say that it isn't a plus to be more attacking).

Similar to how Peter May and Ken Barrington were two England players less than a year apart in age. Few who watched both their careers play out came away thinking that Barrington was the better of the two. May was a prodigy and was *way* ahead of Barrington early in their careers. But he faded relatively early whereas Barrington was great into his late 30s. And May was seen as an attractive stroke maker while Barrington was seen as dour. With hindsight most people nowadays rate Barrington higher because ultimately he achieved more, but that wasn't the popular view of their contemporaries.

 

[Johan]

I will say this, this comparision is basically one of the Greatest batting peaks in history vs Sustained brilliance over a much longer timeframe, your answer is very dependant on what you value more.