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Top Spinners to Debut in the 21st Century

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Thala_0710

First Class Debutant
A similar thread was created for fast bowlers.
Would be interesting to do the same for spinners. Here's the list I created of the top of my head (might have forgotten somebody)
1.Ashwin
2.Lyon
3.Swann
4.Jadeja
5.Maharaj
6.Yasir
7.Kaneria
8.Mehidy
9.Shakib
10.Kuldeep
11.Rehman
12.Panesar
13.Taijul
14.Axar
15.O'Keefe
16.Ajaz
17.Harmer
18.Ojha
19.Jayasuriya
20.Leach
 
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Molehill

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
You should have Moeen Ali in there who has more Test wickets than a lot of those mentioned.

One from leftfield who hasn't played a whole lot of Tests but has taken heaps of FC wickets would be Harmer.
 
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Thala_0710

First Class Debutant
Molehill said:
You should have Moeen Ali in there who has more Test wickets than a lot of those mentioned.

One from leftfield who hasn't played a whole lot of Tests but has taken heaps of FC wickets would be Harmer.
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Did think about him...and he does have a lot of test wickets but his avg of 37 doesn't do him much good. Also, I have Leach at no. 20 and I think that he is a better spinner than Ali.
Someone like Axar has played a lot less than him but it is because we have Ashwin and Jadeja. Axar has a great FC record and when he has played he ran through the Eng side (on some pretty spin friendly wickets tbf). I highly doubt that Ali would have been able to do that though.
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
Thala_0710 said:
A similar thread was created for fast bowlers.
Would be interesting to do the same for spinners. Here's the list I created of the top of my head (might have forgotten somebody)
1.Ashwin
2.Lyon
3.Swann
4.Jadeja
5.Maharaj
6.Yasir
7.Harbhajan
8.Kaneria
9.Mehidy
10.Shakib
11.Kuldeep
12.Rehman
13.Panesar
14.Taijul
15.Axar
16.Ajaz
17.Mendis
18.Ojha
19.Jayasuriya
20.Leach
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Harbhajan debuted pre 2000.
 
Molehill

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
Thala_0710 said:
Did think about him...and he does have a lot of test wickets but his avg of 37 doesn't do him much good. Also, I have Leach at no. 20 and I think that he is a better spinner than Ali.
Someone like Axar has played a lot less than him but it is because we have Ashwin and Jadeja. Axar has a great FC record and when he has played he ran through the Eng side (on some pretty spin friendly wickets tbf). I highly doubt that Ali would have been able to do that though.
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Quite an achievement for Moeen to take 200 plus wickets when most of the time he wasn't playing on spin friendly wickets. What's Axar like outside India?
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
I will go probably:

  1. Ashwin
  2. Lyon
  3. Jadeja
  4. Swann
  5. Maharaj
  6. Shah
  7. Kaneria
  8. Kuldeep
  9. Shakib
  10. Taijul
  11. Axar
  12. Harmer
  13. Mehedy
  14. O'Keefe
  15. Rehman
  16. Panesar
  17. Ojha
  18. Jayasuriya
  19. Leach
  20. Ali
 
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Thala_0710

First Class Debutant
Molehill said:
Quite an achievement for Moeen to take 200 plus wickets when most of the time he wasn't playing on spin friendly wickets. What's Axar like outside India?
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Axar doesn't play outside India because we have Ashwin and Jadeja, not because he is not good enough. Ali's 200 wkts is a great achievement ofc but it's more a function of playing that many games and bowling that many overs, owing partially to the lack of great spinners produced recently by England. I accept that Axar doesn't have an away record that can be scrutinized, hence I've only put him 14th. But to be the lead spinner in a series and almost single handedly dismantle an entire test batting line up deserves appreciation
 
Molehill

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
Thala_0710 said:
Axar doesn't play outside India because we have Ashwin and Jadeja, not because he is not good enough. Ali's 200 wkts is a great achievement ofc but it's more a function of playing that many games and bowling that many overs, owing partially to the lack of great spinners produced recently by England. I accept that Axar doesn't have an away record that can be scrutinized, hence I've only put him 14th. But to be the lead spinner in a series and almost single handedly dismantle an entire test batting line up deserves appreciation
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So he's a good spinner on spin friendly pitches against batsmen who don't play spin very well. He's getting nowhere near my Top 20 with only that in his CV.

Moeen made Kohli look stupid more than once....
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
Molehill said:
So he's a good spinner on spin friendly pitches against batsmen who don't play spin very well. He's getting nowhere near my Top 20 with only that in his CV.

Moeen made Kohli look stupid more than once....
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He is genuinely good somewhere, not being **** everywhere.
 
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