*Official* Bangladesh Tour of Pakistan- Test Series

[Silver Silva]

So where to now for Pakistan? Firstly, the team overall displayed the flakiness that cost them heavily in Australia, but perhaps even more so. Can anyone else here think of a mentally weaker team?

Their bowling is a concern as they don't have someone with real pace and Shaheen's being off the boil removes amount of quality. I doubt Abrar will be effective unless the pitches are dry enough that the pacers will be ineffective. I like Khurram and think he could be a useful bowler in the Siddle mould, except I have doubts about his fitness. But they have no-one with real spark who can lift the team. The batting's the biggest problem. Obviously there's a wide gap between QeA and tests - though it's silly how bad they are at playing pace when until Imran's reorganisation greentops were very common. They have guys who can score, but they seem to lack discipline and application, as was starkly apparent in Australia with collapses against spells which might have gone wicketless with even a modicum of judgement. And of course the fielding is plumbing new depths.

Despite the obvious massive structural weaknesses in Pakistan cricket more widely, I honestly don't think they're that bad on paper. But when it comes to getting on the field, eleven headless chickens would be a more resilient team (and could probably catch better). If England don't mince them in every test I will be quite surprised.


Very interesting action, all arms. Must say it strikes me as being one that'll be vulnerable to injuries but until he

How is Masood captain of Pakistan, is it politics or corruption?

 

[reyrey]

Pak lacking a truly quality spinner is what's hurting them the most and that's been the case for a while. I mean put Saqlain or even Kaneria in this side and at worst they are drawing this series.

 

[reyrey]

How is Masood captain of Pakistan, is it politics or corruption?

He's well educated and meant to be highly intelligent.

 

[Prince EWS]

Pak lacking a truly quality spinner is what's hurting them the most and that's been the case for a while. I mean put Saqlain or even Kaneria in this side and at worst they are drawing this series.

The first Test was so weird. Pakistan arguably played better IMO but lost by ten wickets. Not sure I've ever seen such a whopping victory to team that maybe wasn't even the best performed team in the game. Declaration made things a bit weird, but still.

Second Test - yeah just outplayed.

 

[Apex Predator]

Pakistan at this rate came closer to Beating Australia sums up that Australia is there for the taking in Ashes and BGT.
Windies got them finally and Kiwis nearly had them in second test.

The bubble may finally burst this summer for Aussies & their flaky batting unit @Nintendo

 

[govinda indian fan]

Pakistan at this rate came closer to Beating Australia sums up that Australia is there for the taking in Ashes and BGT.
Windies got them finally and Kiwis nearly had them in second test.

The bubble may finally burst this summer for Aussies.

Dont underestimate India's abilty to choke in bowling friendly conditions

 

[Apex Predator]

Dont underestimate India's abilty to choke in bowling friendly conditions

If anything Bowling friendly shootouts bring India in to the game.
Joburg 2018 and Newlands 2024 are prime examples.
Australia would be better suited to prepare flat tracks & grind India with some old fashioned cricket.
Fast paced tests would suit visitors

 

[govinda indian fan]

If anything Bowling friendly shootouts bring India in to the game.
Joburg 2018 and Newlands 2024 are prime examples.
Australia would be better suited to prepare flat tracks & grind India with some old fashioned cricket.
Fast paced tests would suit visitors

We are not having murli vijay or pujara now instead we have falshy untested in overseas jaiswal and ftb gill

 

[Apex Predator]

We are not having murli vijay or pujara now instead we have falshy untested in overseas jaiswal and ftb gill

Lol Murli Vijay was a massive failure in 2018-19 in Australia & got dropped for Mayank. Only in ultra flat pancake high scoring tracks of 2014 he did well.
Jaiswal is still quality & his aggressive run scoring will be critical in a low scoring series and he is a left hander.
Australia struggled against Indian left handers Jadeja Sundar Pant in last BGT.
If anything Indian batting somehow looks better on paper than Australia. Only Green Marsh Head seem to be carrying them

 

[govinda indian fan]

Lol Murli Vijay was a massive failure in 2018-19 in Australia & got dropped for Mayank. Only in ultra flat pancake high scoring tracks of 2014 he did well.
Jaiswal is still quality & his aggressive run scoring will be critical in a low scoring series and he is a left hander.
Australia struggled against Indian left handers Jadeja Sundar Pant in last BGT.
If anything Indian batting somehow looks better on paper than Australia. Only Green Marsh Head seem to be carrying them

Yes but jaiswal is prone to poke his bat to balls outside off stump anway hopefully we will do well in aus

 

[Silver Silva]

Yes but jaiswal is prone to poke his bat to balls outside off stump anway hopefully we will do well in aus

Bro every team would put Jaiswal in their starting XI , he's the hottest property in Test cricket atm the least of your concerns !

 

[LangleyburyCCPlayee]

People don't realise how rapidly these historical "memories" can fade, especially in fast-growing countries with young populations. It took like 30 years for Vietnam to flip from being "literally at war with America" to "in some polling, the most pro-American country on the planet".

I think it’s more America and Vietnam having a mutual distrust of China than anything, I couldn’t tell you Bangladesh’s relations with their Asian neighbours (I’d imagine Pakistan don’t have the power to project much influence on Bangladesh these days?)

 

[Apex Predator]

Yes but jaiswal is prone to poke his bat to balls outside off stump anway hopefully we will do well in aus

That is pretty much everyone's problem in Test cricket these days. Major talking point would be how he copes with extra bounce of Perth.
In other venues he has tools to do well.

 

[Apex Predator]

For Pakistan I'd say Bring back Abid Ali for England Tests. He is a valuable HTB at least.
Sajid Khan the off spinner and Noman Ali are still best spinners around.
Drop Abrar he looks a limited over prospect at best. His Mystery isn't Mendis or Theekshana level.

My Pacers would be Arshad Iqbal (if fit) Aamer Jamal and Khurram.

For BD Hridoy must be picked for India tests.
Drop Mominul perhaps

 

[govinda indian fan]

Bro every team would put Jaiswal in their starting XI , he's the hottest property in Test cricket atm the least of your concerns !

Right bro maybe iam over concerned about him

 

[govinda indian fan]

For Pakistan I'd say Bring back Abid Ali for England Tests. He is a valuable HTB at least.
Sajid Khan the off spinner and Noman Ali are still best spinners around.
Drop Abrar he looks a limited over prospect at best. His Mystery isn't Mendis or Theekshana level.

My Pacers would be Arshad Iqbal (if fit) Aamer Jamal and Khurram.

For BD Hridoy must be picked for India tests.
Drop Mominul perhaps

Sajid khan is **** bowler and nauman and abid are too old maybe they can get haris sohil who is younger then abid back

 

[govinda indian fan]

Abrar is exciting spinner actually pak need abdullah shafiqe to be in form or repalce him with pindi bradman aka parachi aka imam ul haq

 

[Apex Predator]

Sajid khan is **** bowler and nauman and abid are too old maybe they can get haris sohil who is younger then abid back

Sajid had a match winning effort in BD 12 wickets I guess. Bowled decently in Sydney test this year. Noman is best left arm spinner they have.
Both of them are short term solutions keeping England in mind. Abrar ain't it. Too slow off the pitch and doesn't turns at all.

Abid Ali is 36 and Haris unfit Sohail is 35 with poor domestic numbers off late.
Abid was excellent in Pakistan at least.

 

[cricman]

It could be just the circumvent nature of how Bangladesh batted but I thought Mohammed Ali for Pakistan bowled really well.

Mominul and Shakib didn't exude any confidence when they were batting.

I think Rishad should be an option in the Test team. He can bowl 10-12 overs in an innings, isn't a mug with the Bat and is a plus fielder. Especially with Shakib declining.

 

[centurymaker]

Pakistan at this rate came closer to Beating Australia sums up that Australia is there for the taking in Ashes and BGT.
Windies got them finally and Kiwis nearly had them in second test.

The bubble may finally burst this summer for Aussies & their flaky batting unit @Nintendo

Current Indian batting doesn't have the grit to really overcome Australia. Needed someone like Pujara in there at least but there's no one.

If they can even get a 2-2 draw out it, it'd be a very good result and even this would require something a little special. I really don't see India winning the series at all over 5 Tests, because nobody wins 5 test series away from home!! Home team can stage a comeback at any point while away team tends to start poorly and/or get too weary towards the final tests. It's hard imo.

If India's last series in Australia had a 5th test, I bet the series would have ended 2-2. Australia's last two series in England have ended 2-2 thanks to losing final tests. India's last series in England ended 2-2 after losing final 5th test. It's just easier to secure a 4 match series in comparison.

In last 2 decades, no one has won a 5 test series away from home besides England in Australia in 2010/11 (3-1). That was a very special effort. So again, a 2-2 scoreline over 5 Tests would be a great result for India.