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Ravichandran Ashwin vs Kapil Dev

Who is the greater test cricketer?


  • Total voters
    32

sayon basak

International Debutant
**** way to judge a captain.

You could be the greatest captain ever but if you played for Bangladesh in the 00’s it wouldn’t mean much.
The greatest captain, by default, wouldn't come from bd at the first place. Success is the only way by which a captain is remembered.
 

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
**** way to judge a captain.

You could be the greatest captain ever but if you played for Bangladesh in the 00’s it wouldn’t mean much.
Agree actually. But if you don't have a good record as a captain, you atleast need to do something like win some important series by your geniuses, organise a disoriented team and change their mindset or create the base for a strong team to come. Nawab Jr did those things despite his horrible win/loss record; Kapil didn't.
 

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
The greatest captain, by default, wouldn't come from bd at the first place. Success is the only way by which a captain is remembered.
Success doesn't always have to do with win/loss record though. Building a strong base for future, changing a team mindset, unifying a disoriented team, etc also counts as success.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Success doesn't always have to do with win/loss record though. Building a strong base for future, changing a team mindset, unifying a disoriented team, etc also counts as success.
And having a better win/loss record than if you weren't captain. Which is extremely hard to measure because we're just speculating - but it's what we're basically trying to figure out.
 

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
And having a better win/loss record than if you weren't captain. Which is extremely hard to measure because we're just speculating - but it's what we're basically trying to figure out.
Exactly, like I don't think if Australia was led by Gilchrist instead of Ponting (I swear it's just an example, I don't have anything against him) Australia would had lost any more matches or won much more. Can't say the same for Worrell's WIndies or Imran's Pak.
 

Johan

State Vice-Captain
I'd say Kapil Dev, feel like he is more well rounded, and then you add in fielding and captaincy and Kapil is well ahead as an overall cricketer.
 

Arachnodouche

International Captain
**** way to judge a captain.

You could be the greatest captain ever but if you played for Bangladesh in the 00’s it wouldn’t mean much.
Yeah, small miracle the bowling resources he had at his disposal especially while touring didn't drive him into chronic depression. Must be the stoic and earthy Haryanvi in him. And the Boost, naturally.
 

sayon basak

International Debutant
Not really. Fleming is considered a great captain but he is remembered more for strategy and calmness than win %.
But then, his calmness or strategy wouldn't be appreciated if those didn't result in any success. Yeah, team success may not be a genuine way to attach greatness to a captain, but also, if you are a great captain, your captaincy would eventually translate into some sort of success.
 

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