Joe Root vs Dravid

[subshakerz]

Is Root possibly better?

 

[Majestic]

I think Root is possibly better. Now before certain section of fans go after me, let's take a look at their stats excluding Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. Root averages 51 while Dravid averages 49. Both superb players of swing and seam bowling but not so good vs pace and bounce. Root is slightly better than Dravid vs spin. Root is also a naturally more aggressive batsman than Dravid with wider range of strokes.

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[subshakerz]

I think Root is possibly better. Now before certain section of fans go after me, let's take a look at their stats excluding Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. Root averages 51 while Dravid averages 49. Both superb players of swing and seam bowling but not so good vs pace and bounce. Root is slightly better than Dravid vs spin. Root is also a naturally more aggressive batsman than Dravid with wider range of strokes.

Batting records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo.com

stats.espncricinfo.com

Yup. It's definitely close.

 

[Johan]

Think Root is ahead in just about everything against Rahul, performed in a harder era, better stats minus minnows and has played for a fragile and dependant lineup while Dravid was playing in a very good lineup for most of his career, plus another dimension to his game.

 

[subshakerz]

Think Root is ahead in just about everything against Rahul

Not as a player of seam.

 

[Johan]

Not as a player of seam.

do you use the classic Australia/SA performance method to dictate a player's ability to play seam bowling?

because bar averaging 100+ in the 2003-4 Australia series where both McGrath and Warnie were gone and the main australian bowler was averaging 37 with multiple batsmen averaging 50+, Dravid almost always failed against Australia and South Africa, a big hole in his record actually.

 

[ma1978]

Let’s wait until careers are done. We have yet to see the Root decline phase, Remeber there was a period after 100 tests when Dravid was averaging high 50s. i rate both of them very highly and this is very close.

 

[BazBall21]

Root just.

 

[Coronis]

Dravid’s stats at Root’s age:

104 matches 176 innings 9049 @ 58.75 23 tons 46 fifties

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Dravid for now. Don’t think Root will end up with a record as good as Dravids but we’ll see in a few years.

Longevity is really underrated on here. Dravid was averaging high 50s with a 60+ away average around 2007

 

[Coronis]

Hard to do a fair comparison of someone in their prime vs a whole career tbh.

 

[subshakerz]

do you use the classic Australia/SA performance method to dictate a player's ability to play seam bowling?

because bar averaging 100+ in the 2003-4 Australia series where both McGrath and Warnie were gone and the main australian bowler was averaging 37 with multiple batsmen averaging 50+, Dravid almost always failed against Australia and South Africa, a big hole in his record actually.

Dravid is better in handling lateral movement but not pace and bounce in SA/Aus.

 

[Johan]

Dravid is better in handling lateral movement but not pace and bounce in SA/Aus.

Impossible to say, both are amazing against Lateral movement, Root probably better against Spin though.

 

[Prince EWS]

I'm gonna go with Dravid for now but I think it's super close. If Root continues to perform above replacement for another couple of years then I'll change my vote for sure.

 

[subshakerz]

Dravid for now. Don’t think Root will end up with a record as good as Dravids but we’ll see in a few years.

Longevity is really underrated on here. Dravid was averaging high 50s with a 60+ away average around 2007

I think unless it's a sharp decline I will opt for Root since he is more aggressive.

 

[GIMH]

Rahul Dravid’s series here in 2011 kind of reminds me of Root’s whole latter captaincy period, where he scored all the runs while the rest burned

 

[PlayerComparisons]

I'm gonna go with Dravid for now but I think it's super close. If Root continues to perform above replacement for another couple of years then I'll change my vote for sure.

Update your standardized averages project! Want to see where the fab 4 rank on it.

 

[Prince EWS]

Update your standardized averages project! Want to see where the fab 4 rank on it.

I keep telling people I don't have time but I've actually been sent on exile for a month so I might even do actually that!

 

[Howe_zat]

I keep telling people I don't have time but I've actually been sent on exile for a month so I might even do actually that!

These people will believe you, you know

 

[Prince EWS]

These people will believe you, you know

As much as it's funny to point to me not getting around to stuff I say I will do repeatedly, the standardised averages project is an actual thing I had done.