*Official* South Africa Tour of the West Indies, AUGUST 6th to 26th, 2024-- 2 TESTS & 3 T20Is

[SillyCowCorner1]

His white ball career should have ended after Logan van Beek DESTROYED him.

 

[Kenneth Viljoen]

Why is holders place in the team getting questioned? Okay he may be too high up the order at no 6 but he still makes plenty of decent contributions. He's a great no 8. He would be in my England xi.

He's not as good as he used to be ..

Since 2022 :

23 wickets in 15 tests @49.09
542 runs in 26 innings @24.64

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

This is why I am a fan of 5-test series. There is a challenge within a challenge.

Last test match Motie was introduced in the 10th or 11th over. He got smacked hard…looked flat and demotivated at times.

There are lessons to be learned from the previous test…as it builds up to the 4th and 5th tests

 

[LangleyburyCCPlayee]

Speed guns in the Caribbean are consistently slower than almost anywhere else. I know this because it records slow speeds for overseas bowlers also. There is no way this is 135kph. In England this would be 140kph plus.

Would be 96 mph in the Hundred!

 

[Beamer]

Would be 96 mph in the Hundred!

The quickest I have ever seen an England bowler deliver was Mark Wood in St Lucia. That came at 94mph, so was probably closer to 98mph! That was a quicker spell than the one at Trent Bridge, at least to my eyes.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Fidel Edwards was the last man to wake up a dead Windies wicket

 

[Beamer]

Fidel Edwards was the last man to wake up a dead Windies wicket

Yep, Fidel was extremely quick. 97mph was his fastest, roughly Mark Wood's pace. I actually thought he was a better bowler when he was bowling outswing at 87 - 90 though. He got carried away.

 

[ashley bach]

The patience shown from Stubbs to dig in early now starting to reap some dividends.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

The patience shown from Stubbs to dig in early now starting to reap some dividends.

From 0 (23) to 23 (62)
Progress

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Yep, Fidel was extremely quick. 97mph was his fastest, roughly Mark Wood's pace. I actually thought he was a better bowler when he was bowling outswing at 87 - 90 though. He got carried away.

With great power comes great responsibility…Fidel was better as John Cena

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

So Jason Holder is basically doing Kemar Roach’s job with military medium tho

 

[ashley bach]

The patience shown from Stubbs to dig in early now starting to reap some dividends.

You're very welcome @SillyCowCorner1 @Beamer

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

You're very welcome @SillyCowCorner1 @Beamer

Kiss of death!

 

[Beamer]

You're very welcome @SillyCowCorner1 @Beamer

In fairness, it was coming. The man edged it just in front of slip or played and missed more times than even we had managed against Mark Wood!

 

[ashley bach]

Kiss of death!

Pleasure doing business with you.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Warrican in front of Motie. Hmmm

Okay, carry on Boss

 

[StephenZA]

This performance reminds me so much of the early years of SA readmission. When you could just see the lack of Test batting experience. So reliant on the bowling.

 

[ImpatientLime]

He's not as good as he used to be ..

Since 2022 :

23 wickets in 15 tests @49.09
542 runs in 26 innings @24.64

holder is undroppable. there isn't another man in the region who would contribute more. that is facts.

kraigg, holder, seales and roach (should be) undroppable. how roach got left out here for a spinner is weird. he would enjoy this deck.

 

[Beamer]

Warrican in front of Motie. Hmmm

Okay, carry on Boss

That spell showed the difference between the two, in my opinion (apart from the last test where Motie was genuinely awful).

Warrican will fire it in accurately all day. But he won't change his pace much, it either turns or goes straight on due to natural variation. In the last test it worked when SA batsmen were trying to get after him. But mostly, he is not the guy you want trying to get out batsmen who are showing good discipline on a wicket that isn't turning much.

Motie will get people like Root and Stokes out with guile and big spin. He is a wicket taker with great variation. I would choose Motie everytime.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

That spell showed the difference between the two, in my opinion (apart from the last test where Motie was genuinely awful).

Warrican will fire it in accurately all day. But he won't change his pace much, it either turns or goes straight on due to natural variation. In the last test it worked when SA batsmen were trying to get after him. But mostly, he is not the guy you want trying to get out batsmen who are showing good discipline on a wicket that isn't turning much.

Motie will get people like Root and Stokes out with guile and big spin. He is a wicket taker with great variation. I would choose Motie everytime.

Good analysis. Kraigg saw the opening and his boy into the ascendency over Motie. Pecking order just changed!