because of Tendulkar, Dev, Gavaskar, Dravid and KohliSo in the real world, why wouldn't Bumrah and Ashwin be among the top 5 Indian greats without having to make up reasons?
because of Tendulkar, Dev, Gavaskar, Dravid and KohliSo in the real world, why wouldn't Bumrah and Ashwin be among the top 5 Indian greats without having to make up reasons?
Of those 4, only Tendulkar has a clear case to be above both of Bumrah/Ashwin. Hard to make an argument for the rest without going overboard on the WC mythologizing or the general overrating of batters.because of Tendulkar, Dev, Gavaskar, Dravid and Kohli
nah. All these guys just better, in some cases much better. Ashwin credibly 6. Bumrah orobably 8/9 depending on how you rate Laxman.Of those 4, only Tendulkar has a clear case to be above both of Bumrah/Ashwin. Hard to make an argument for the rest without going overboard on the WC mythologizing or the general overrating of batters.
SENA is just four random countries, there’s nothing more special about those countries than anywhere elseGuy doesn't have a single 5-fer in SENA in 25 Tests! Don't care how many games he's won in India, don't care about the reasons behind his regular exclusion abroad, you simply don't get to be ranked in the top 5 with that sort of hole in your resume as a frontline spinner.
Keep telling yourself that. Any serious Indian fan of the last forty years knows where he wanted the team to do well.SENA is just four random countries, there’s nothing more special about those countries than anywhere else
its one thing for white people to say this **** but a brown guy drinking this piss says a lot about their insecuritiesSENA is just four random countries, there’s nothing more special about those countries than anywhere else
Arbitrary numbers shouldn't overcome a generally great Test career.Guy doesn't have a single 5-fer in SENA in 25 Tests! Don't care how many games he's won in India, don't care about the reasons behind his regular exclusion abroad, you simply don't get to be ranked in the top 5 with that sort of hole in your resume as a frontline spinner.
They really aren't. Not if you properly rate batters vs bowlers. For one, bowlers actually do the more important part of the match winning with the wicket taking.nah. All these guys just better, in some cases much better. Ashwin credibly 6. Bumrah orobably 8/9 depending on how you rate Laxman.
Can we not? Just… notits one thing for white people to say this **** but a brown guy drinking this piss says a lot about their insecurities
Overrating Ashwin like crazy broOf those 4, only Tendulkar has a clear case to be above both of Bumrah/Ashwin. Hard to make an argument for the rest without going overboard on the WC mythologizing or the general overrating of batters.
Famed Pakistani spinner Abdul Qadir has 3 more 5’fers in 9 fewer games in SENA.Guy doesn't have a single 5-fer in SENA in 25 Tests! Don't care how many games he's won in India, don't care about the reasons behind his regular exclusion abroad, you simply don't get to be ranked in the top 5 with that sort of hole in your resume as a frontline spinner.
You might as well say Warner > Warne by this line of logic tbh.Overrating Ashwin like crazy bro
It's literally the opposite @Prince EWSYou might as well say Warner > Warne by this line of logic tbh.
Not really, because the line of logic is that the batting contributions regardless are being overvalued for little reason.
Probably the most accurate comparison.Rating Ashwin over Dravid would be like rating Philander over Graeme Smith
No you're the only one making about batting v bowlingNot really, because the line of logic is that the batting contributions regardless are being overvalued for little reason.
It essentially is about batting vs bowling. Ultimately that's all this is.No you're the only one making about batting v bowling
Haha that's such a great comparison.Rating Ashwin over Dravid would be like rating Philander over Graeme Smith