capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
By just being as bad away and never being comparatively good..... Isn't not playing enough away the main point you used for Herath vs Jadeja??
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Ravichandran Ashwin vs Jim Laker
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ImpatientLime
International Regular
i'm just here for the hyperbole. my favourite so far being a man who took 15 wickets in australia at 21, albeit at a slower than usual SR having his performances described as 'the definition of mediocre'.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
If you want to give him points for that Australia tour, then Jadeja also has the same numbers there......
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Again, Laker was goodish at worse.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Yes but Ashwin is a proven failure away.
I like how you stalk threads looking for a time to give a comment nobody asked for.
This isn't proven at all. It requires large, generally bad faith assumptions on the quality of past and present cricketers.
ImpatientLime
International Regular
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subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
No it's just requires looking at how Ashwin did outside SC and lol teams like WI.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Laker was JUST goodish.
Herath is a much bigger proven failure. Jadeja has the exact same stats as Laker in Australia with the ball and great numbers in NZ as well. Then how did you vote for Herath??
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Goodish is better than poor last I checked.
Similar reason. I had no reason to believe Jadeja was capable of running through a side to potentially win a game outside SENA.
Jadeja in NZ? 5 wickets@60.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Neither did Laker ever do that. Anywhere outside England. How come he gets a pass in Australia and Jadeja doesn't??
Again, debating in bad faith is not good. You don't enjoy it when people lolsamplesize other players over Imran's efforts, why are you backwards here now? Is there a proper standard or are you also just as backwards as the people you criticize who pull down your favourite players?
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
I have explained. Laker was a premodern era cricketer. If I used regular sample sizes I wouldn't even consider him on career length.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Got closer than they did.
Being premodern isn't a reason to behave like this. In fact it should be even more reason to not rate Laker as highly, for playing in a worse era with less challenging scenarios to face and still not being better than Ashwin.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Doesn't explains anything really...
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
He missed more matches than he played. Have nothing to do with being premodern Or not. His sample size in Australia is below the mark.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Normally you are right except Ashwin has built his failed record in SENA over something like 10-11 tours. That's not excusable.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
And ignore all the "excuses", aka the good Australia and English tours??