The greatest non-allrounder at their non-specialist discipline

[TheJediBrah]

Gilchrist, Sangakkara and QdK would get in to their side with either for batting or keeping alone, and may be in multiple sides in their era. I want to include Flower and AbdV here as well, but the opinion on them are divided.

If you think Flower would get into any side on keeping alone you're actually insane

 

[Migara]

If you think Flower would get into any side on keeping alone you're actually insane

If you think Gilchrist with glove work alone get a place over Dhoni, More, Latif, Bari or PJ in a sub continental side, you are insane too. So getting in to "any side" argument is moot. Most of these batting keepers are not the best with the gloves in their own countries.

 

[TheJediBrah]

If you think Gilchrist with glove work alone get a place over Dhoni, More, Latif, Bari or PJ in a sub continental side, you are insane too. So getting in to "any side" argument is moot. Most of these batting keepers are not the best with the gloves in their own countries.

How is any of this relevant to what you said and my response?

edit: I think you misunderstand. I'm saying Flower wouldn't get into any side on keeping alone. As in there is no side he would get into based on keeping. Not that he wouldn't get into every side. He wasn't even an average keeper

 

[mr_mister]

You're the only person I've encountered who considered Flowers keeping thaaat bad. He took plenty of international dismissals

 

[Brook's side]

He's got to be too good/'specialist' a keeper for this side I would have thought.
I don't think you can play as keeper in this team if you've played 55 tests in the role of keeper!?

 

[number11]

"A dream cricketer. At his best Wasim Akram plays like most of us would wish to. He has complete mastery over swing and seam, and sometimes moves the ball both ways in one delivery. All this comes at high speed from a quick, ball-concealing action, and is backed up by the threat of a dangerous bouncer or deceptive slower delivery. Akram is rated by many as the best left-arm fast bowler of all time, and his career record certainly bears that out - along with the high regard of his contemporaries. He hit like a kicking horse, but batsmanship was one skill in which Akram underachieved..."

Averaged 22.
Batted most often at 8, and next most at 9.

Akram was close to a perfect cricketer. Absolute gem.

 

[Blenkinsop]

He's got to be too good/'specialist' a keeper for this side I would have thought.
I don't think you can play as keeper in this team if you've played 55 tests in the role of keeper!?

So what about Alec Stewart? Was not a specialist keeper, got pushed into doing the role for England and became pretty good at it, but started as a batsman and was good enough to be selected as such throughout his career.

 

[Brook's side]

So what about Alec Stewart? Was not a specialist keeper, got pushed into doing the role for England and became pretty good at it, but started as a batsman and was good enough to be selected as such throughout his career.

Ineligible.

Even if he was (which he isn't) then he wouldn't get in the side anyway, as we need 2 keepers who bowl.

 

[Brook's side]

Benaud was actually a good shout from Qlder.
His average position is just about bang on 7 though, which I'd think probably rules him out.
Also scored a 100 batting 4.
Average 24. Borderline.
1st class average 36 though with 23 100s.
I think he'd be a ringer.

 

[TheJediBrah]

You're the only person I've encountered who considered Flowers keeping thaaat bad. He took plenty of international dismissals

He was objectively far below average. Bottom 5% of international keepers easily and only did the job out of desperation. Anyone who followed ZImbabwe cricket could tell you. His movement was especially bad, makes Johnny Bairstow look like Wasim Bari

 

[Brook's side]

Jack Russell might be eligible as a batsman.

 

[Prince EWS]

You're the only person I've encountered who considered Flowers keeping thaaat bad. He took plenty of international dismissals

Nah I agree with TJB.

 

[Brook's side]

1st team
Leach
Woakes
Healy
Benaud
Wasim
Vaas
Root*
Dilshan (wk)*
Walcott (wk)*
Cronje*
Walters*

2nd team
Russell
Gillespie
Warne
Cummins
Marshall
Reiffel
Tendulkar*
Border/Moody*
Collingwood(wk)*
?(wk)*

Hammond*

2nd team needs 2 wicket keeping seam bowlers.

 

[capt_Luffy]

1st team
Leach
Woakes
Healy
Benaud
Wasim
Vaas
Walcott (wk)*
Root*
Collingwood (wk)*
Cronje*
Walters*

2nd team
Russell
Gillespie
Warne
Cummins
Marshall
Reiffel
?(wk)*
?(wk)*
Tendulkar*
Border/Moody*
Hammond*

2nd team needs 2 wicket keeping seam bowlers.

De Villiers surely one, Travis Head can be the other one. Also, Woakes is surely an All rounder......

 

[Brook's side]

De Villiers surely one, Travis Head can be the other one. Also, Woakes is surely an All rounder......

Dilshan. His bowling figures are great. If I put him in the first team, then Collingwood can drop into the 2nd team.
Then just need one more quicker bowler. De Villiers is too good as a wickie to qualify.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Dilshan. His bowling figures are great. If I put him in the first team, then Collingwood can drop into the 2nd team.
Then just need one more quicker bowler. De Villiers is too good as a wickie to qualify.

So was Walcott really, if not even better. Kept for almost as many percent matches as Sanga as well and significantly higher than ABD.

 

[Brook's side]

So was Walcott really, if not even better. Kept for almost as many percent matches as Sanga as well and significantly higher than ABD.

Damn. Well then I don't know what to do. I definitely want him for his bowling.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Damn. Well then I don't know what to do. I definitely want him for his bowling.

Dilshan, Head, Gurusinha and probably Lala Amarnath (Collingwood seems like a proper allrounder, then again so does kinda Amarnath).

 

[Prince EWS]

Damn. Well then I don't know what to do. I definitely want him for his bowling.

Create a separate team for each 1/4 century so you can create six separate lists.

 

[Coronis]

If you think Gilchrist with glove work alone get a place over Dhoni, More, Latif, Bari or PJ in a sub continental side, you are insane too. So getting in to "any side" argument is moot. Most of these batting keepers are not the best with the gloves in their own countries.

Gilchrist > Dhoni