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marc71178

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aussie tragic said:
Procter seems to be the biggest ever loss to World cricket...shame :(
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It's one of the great imponderables. Would the grind of International Cricket have got him down. Did he throw everything into those super tests because it was his one chance on the big stage and hence pull out performances that would've been nigh on impossible to replicate if he was playing series after series year after year?
 
jimmy101

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International cricket wouldn't have grinded Procky down. And of course when the WSC was actually happening nobody, players included, knew exactly how big it would be. So it's hard to see Procky looking at the series as is one last hurrah on the world stage. Besides, the County Championship was a much bigger deal in his day then it is now, so I'd imagine he viewed cricket in England as his personal pinnacle. He ended up playing 16 seasons with Gloucestershire before his career's end. Absolute beast.
 
marc71178

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As I said though, that is all supposition.

There is no way however that anyone could call county cricket a pinnacle rather than World Series though.
 
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His FC record is very impressive.

Obviously you have to take into account the fact that Imran, Kapil and Botham played a lot of tests among them, but his FC record is better than all of them.
 
jimmy101

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marc71178 said:
As I said though, that is all supposition.

There is no way however that anyone could call county cricket a pinnacle rather than World Series though.
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You're right, World Series was a bigger deal than the CC, although I'm sure there were plenty of nostalgic old MCC farts around in the 70's who would've argued that the Championship was still the pinnacle of all cricket haha.
 
mr_mister

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Not including his final test, Paul Reiffel in the 11 innings leading up to that hit 460 runs at an average of about 60

He was improving more and more with the bat as his career came to a close but I guess his bowling must have been starting to wane
 
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mr_mister said:
Not including his final test, Paul Reiffel in the 11 innings leading up to that hit 460 runs at an average of about 60

He was improving more and more with the bat as his career came to a close but I guess his bowling must have been starting to wane
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His bowling had waned, just wasn't taking wickets. And at that time we had McGrath, Gillespie, Bichel, Kaspa & Fleming all around, and Brett Lee was a year away.
 
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Herbert Sutcliffe's average never dropped below 60 throughout his entire Test career — Javed Miandad is the only other man whose average never dropped below 50 in a career of at least 20 innings.
 
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*In the winter of 1887-88 when, owing to what may have been a misunderstanding between Sydney and Melbourne, but at the time was generally regarded as rivalry between the cricket authorities, two English teams visited Australia.

*Until relatively recently, players used to sit or lie down during breaks in play eg fall of wicket.

*Before the front foot no ball law came in, batsmen had to run to the wickets to complete a run
 
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FS (Stanley) Jackson
Jackson said that at Scarborough, when captain for the seventh time against the Australians: I found Darling (Australia captain) stripped to the waist. He said, `Now we'll have a proper tossing, and he who gets on top wins the toss.' So I said to George Hirst, `Georgie, you come and toss this time.' Darling then said, `All right, we'll toss in the old-fashioned way!'

Ernie Toshack
he was passed fit for the 1948 tour of Britain, which was to guarantee him a kind of immortality as a member of Bradman's Invincibles. Tiring of signing autograph sheets during the voyage, he entrusted a friend with the task. A consequence is that there are still sheets in circulation with his name mis-spelt as Toshak.

Keith Miller
Miller had an unusual approach to captaincy, sometimes setting his field by telling the other players "scatter". On another occasion, having omitted to nominate a 12th man, he found himself with 12 players on the field. He observed: "Well, one of you had better bugger off."

Derek Underwood
In 1973, Underwood demolished Sussex by taking 8 for 9 after a bare-footed Kent team helped the fire brigade mop up another flooded ground.

Michael Holding
When he played India in the 4th test in 1976, 5 indian batsmen were “absent hurt” in the 2nd innings
 
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