CricketFan90s
State Vice-Captain
Are you serious ? This is an All time XI in 50 years. It means picked the best players to make a team.
Yes
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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread
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PlayerComparisons
International Vice-Captain
Close for who’s better for scoring tough runs but yeah root is definitely better overall
Coronis
International Coach
Yes, and England has been mediocre (speaking kindly) for long periods over the past 50 years. Australia, Windies, South Africa, Pakistan and India all have better ATG batting and bowling lineups over the last 50 years lol.
CricketFan90s
State Vice-Captain
What you are saying is right. But if you make an all time XI from past 50 years the difference will reduce between teams. Gooch was the Best Opener in 90s and Cook was the best opener in 2010s, Gower the best England batsmen of 1980s, Thorpe was the Best England Batsman from 1995 to 2004 and Pietersen the best England batsmen from 2005 to 2014. If Root replaces Thorpe he is the best batsman of England in from 2010s. Stewart was the Best Wicket keeper batsmen of 90s. Botham and Flintoff good Allrounders and an attacking spinner in Graeme swann, 2 greatest bowlers of 2010s for England. If you make them a Team they are not another English team which lose regularly to Australia but a formidable side.
BazBall21
International Captain
If you go through their overseas records, Thorpe has the better classics in most conditions.
Root's weight of runs and weight of big hundreds pull him well ahead overall though.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Andy Flower???
England had some good players in the last half century here and there, but they still don't measure up to anyway close to the Australian and West Indian teams.
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Hayden
Taylor
Ponting
Smith
Chappell
Border
Gilchrist
Warne
Cummins
Lillee
McGrath
Smith
Kirsten
Amla
Kallis
De Villiers
Cullinan
De Kock
Pollock
Maharaj
Steyn
Donald
Greenidge
Gayle
Richards
Lara
Lloyd
Chanderpaul
Dujon
Marshall
Garner
Ambrose
Holding
Anwar
Azhar
Younis
Miandad
Inzi
Yousuf
Rizwan
Imran
Wasim
Waqar
Saqlain
Gavaskar
Sehwag
Dravid
Tendulkar
Kohli
Dhoni
Jadeja
Kapil
Ashwin
Shami
Bumrah
At least 5 teams decisively better than England in the last 50 years.
Taylor
Ponting
Smith
Chappell
Border
Gilchrist
Warne
Cummins
Lillee
McGrath
Smith
Kirsten
Amla
Kallis
De Villiers
Cullinan
De Kock
Pollock
Maharaj
Steyn
Donald
Greenidge
Gayle
Richards
Lara
Lloyd
Chanderpaul
Dujon
Marshall
Garner
Ambrose
Holding
Anwar
Azhar
Younis
Miandad
Inzi
Yousuf
Rizwan
Imran
Wasim
Waqar
Saqlain
Gavaskar
Sehwag
Dravid
Tendulkar
Kohli
Dhoni
Jadeja
Kapil
Ashwin
Shami
Bumrah
At least 5 teams decisively better than England in the last 50 years.
Coronis
International Coach
I don’t like it. I picked almost the exact same teams as you when I was writing up a response. (had a spinner as an alternate for Windies, had Laxman in over Jadeja, wasn’t 100% on a keeper for Pak or the second opener)
They are an English XI which would definitely lose regularly to an Australian XI from the same time period, get over it.
CricketFan90s
State Vice-Captain
Andy flower in his last 2 years in 2000s was phenomenal and in 90s Stewart was better.
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They pretty much pick themselves. I thought India needed 5 bowlers because their pace attack is still lacking overall. I couldn't think of a spinner for West Indies. Motie might get there. Sulieman Benn is the only bloke from the given time period I can think of for some reason.
CricketFan90s
State Vice-Captain
Not really they are an English XI with batsmen playing till No 10 and 5 Bowlers who can take wickets. Team Composition is what you have to look at not the country they represent.
PlayerComparisons
International Vice-Captain
Yeah root has been pretty underwhelming overseas. No ATG innings or ATG series. His home record is decent though.
CricketFan90s
State Vice-Captain
I am not saying England is the best team but what I want to say is that their team composition is good enough to defeat any other countries XI. It won’t be one sided is what I want to say.
PlayerComparisons
International Vice-Captain
Maybe once every 25 games
BazBall21
International Captain
I'd have Langer and Slater over Taylor, but would give Mark the captaincy if he makes it.
Would have Desmond over Gayle.
CricketFan90s
State Vice-Captain
Not really
Coronis
International Coach
Harper was my alternative.
Correct. And their team composition is inferior to at least 5 other teams. I’d say the same if it was Australia with those players.
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Latham
Turner
Williamson
Crowe
Taylor
Watling
Cairns
Vettori
Hadlee
Wagner
Boult
Pretty mid batting though this side bats deep. Vettori as the spinner is pretty bad.
Karunaratne
Jayasuriya
Sangakkara
Jayawardena
De Silva
Mathews
Jayawardena
Vaas
Lakmal
Herath
Murali
Let down by the pace attack.
England definitely 6th then.
Turner
Williamson
Crowe
Taylor
Watling
Cairns
Vettori
Hadlee
Wagner
Boult
Pretty mid batting though this side bats deep. Vettori as the spinner is pretty bad.
Karunaratne
Jayasuriya
Sangakkara
Jayawardena
De Silva
Mathews
Jayawardena
Vaas
Lakmal
Herath
Murali
Let down by the pace attack.
England definitely 6th then.