kyear2
International Coach
Brilliant to pace, like.liwterally brilliant. Mostly untested vs quality spin and wasn't as spectacular for Harper and co.Didn't thought Dujon was so highly rated.....
Brilliant to pace, like.liwterally brilliant. Mostly untested vs quality spin and wasn't as spectacular for Harper and co.Didn't thought Dujon was so highly rated.....
Came as a surprise to me.Didn't thought Dujon was so highly rated.....
Yeah, I know. Just didn't expect him ahead of guys like Dhoni, Marsh, Engineer, Cameron, de Kock, etc. guys who were either better keep or similar keep and better bat.Brilliant to pace, like.liwterally brilliant. Mostly untested vs quality spin and wasn't as spectacular for Harper and co.
Personally I put more emphasis on batting than keeping of a keeper, like 60-40. So Tallon's batting isn't cutting it for me, not even close, especially given there are keepers who are more than competent like Jayawardene and Saha, who also knows how to hold a bat. Might be too harsh on older keepers, but I think the sport has moved from a place where you can afford your keeper not knowing to hold a bat.It's interesting to see how batting prowess can lift some keepers above more critically acclaimed glovemen. I don't include Gilchrist in this critique as his dismissals per match sets him above others.
It's pleasing to see Oldfield make the list. His percentage of dismissals via stumping (40%) is amazing - but then he kept to Grimmett and O'Reilly.
Perhaps Tallon is the most underrated on CW.
He kept to Grimmett and O’Reilly sure, but many keepers earlier and after also kept to multiple spinners and never came close to replicating him. You look at guys like Engineer and Kirmani who both kept to the quartet and they aren’t even close lol.It's interesting to see how batting prowess can lift some keepers above more critically acclaimed glovemen. I don't include Gilchrist in this critique as his dismissals per match sets him above others.
It's pleasing to see Oldfield make the list. His percentage of dismissals via stumping (40%) is amazing - but then he kept to Grimmett and O'Reilly.
Perhaps Tallon is the most underrated on CW.
Yep. sangakkara is no doubt Top 5, people too keen on rating those who can't hold bat.Thinking this Poll is losing credibility if Sangakarra and Pant are voted the 9th and 10th best wicket keeper batsmen of all-time
So the guy running a wicket-keeper rating poll thinks dismissals per match means something? I'm going to ignore this.I don't include Gilchrist in this critique as his dismissals per match sets him above others.
Pant is a joke but Sangakkara should absolutely be in the top 10, at the very leastThinking this Poll is losing credibility if Sangakarra and Pant are voted the 9th and 10th best wicket keeper batsmen of all-time
My original post only had Pant at 10 being not credible, but I added Sangakarra later because he wasn't a keeper in 65% of his Tests. I hate that people rate him as a keeper batting #3 while averaging 57 with the bat when that is simply not truePant is a joke but Sangakkara should absolutely be in the top 10, at the very least
How is Pant a joke? His keeping is not bad at all.So the guy running a wicket-keeper rating poll thinks dismissals per match means something? I'm going to ignore this.
Pant is a joke but Sangakkara should absolutely be in the top 10, at the very least
Not bad at all isn't exactly glowing praise.How is Pant a joke? His keeping is not bad at all.
Flower?Pant has already produced more knocks of consequence than any wicket keeper batsman bar Gilchrist and Watling.
Utter garbageReality is the terms of the poll are out of whack with value - a wicket keeper who can bat as a top order player is so much more value than a pure keeper who is a lesser bat. In that sense, it’s a travesty that Pant is ranked below cricketers who could barely hold a bat like Oldfield and played when dinosaurs ruled the earth