2022 v 2024 Bowlers Polls

OverratedSanity · Apr 6, 2024

_00_deathscar said:
Jadeja suffers from not being big brained and not having 18,000 variations. He’s ridiculously effective, though.

Even with home pitch support etc, a 20-ish average as a spinner is staggering.

His ranking is marginally higher than it should be, if anything.

_00_deathscar · Apr 6, 2024

OverratedSanity said:
His ranking is marginally higher than it should be, if anything.

Yea but that’s on the back of meme voting…

Fuller Pilch · Apr 7, 2024

Socerer 01 said:
yeah its funny how NZ roll out pitches that can spin when other teams tour to the extent that a batting all rounder picks up his 1st ever 5 wicket haul in first class cricket in his debut tour with a weakened team

i made no argument prior either, not sure which argument of mine you’re calling biased

Google "El Niño summer NZ 2023 / 24".

Pitches that favoured spin had nothing to do with India not touring.

Xix2565 · Apr 7, 2024

Fuller Pilch said:
Google "El Niño summer NZ 2023 / 24".

Pitches that favoured spin had nothing to do with India not touring.

So every time spinners do better in NZ it's the weather's fault? This isn't a one off, there's a trend here.

Xix2565 · Apr 7, 2024

Next tour India should pray for El Nino is what this is suggesting, which seems crazy tbh.

shortpitched713 · Apr 7, 2024

Fuller Pilch said:
Google "El Niño summer NZ 2023 / 24".

Pitches that favoured spin had nothing to do with India not touring.

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Fuller Pilch · Apr 7, 2024

shortpitched713 said:
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Socerer 01 · Apr 7, 2024

Fuller Pilch said:
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why is it always a Nigerian prince

why shouldnt it be a Peruvian prince or a Hungarian monarch :ph34r:

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Thala_0710 · Oct 7, 2024

Line and Length said:
In 2022 we had polls for both spinners and pacers. Because some felt Barnes, Bedser an Philander weren't true fast bowlers, none of these three appeared in those polls.
I have looked at the 2024 overall poll and compared the bowlers' standings with their '22 rankings in the relative categories.
Whilst the top bowlers in each category have remained much the same from one poll to another, certain current players have risen quite dramatically.
The actual numbers in the spinner v quick categories is 13 to 37 which probably reflects the usual 3 quicks + 1 spinner make-up of many attacks.
Your comments are more than welcome.

Here are the comparisons:

2022 Spinners Ranking 2024 Ranking Change
1. Muttiah Muralitharan 1 0
2. Shane Warne 2 0
3. Bill O'Reilly 3 0
4. Jim Laker 5 down 1
5. Clarrie Grimmett 7 down 2
6. Hedley Verity 4 up 2
7. Hugh Tayfield 8 down 1
8. Anil Kumble 12 down 4
9. Derek Underwood 10 down 1
10. Lance Gibbs 9 up 1
11. Ravichandran Ashwin 6 up 5
12. Richie Benaud
13. Rangana Herath
14. Bhagwath Chandrasekhar
15. Bishen Bedi
16. Nathan Lyon 13 up 3
17. Saqlain Mushtaq
18. Graeme Swann
19. Ravindra Jadeja 11 up 8
20. Subhash Gupte
21. Hugh Trumble
22. Wilfred Rhodes
23. Colin Blythe
24. Johnny Wardle
25. Sonny Ramadhin
26. Erapally Prasanna
27. Stuart MacGill
28. Harbhajan Singh
29. Keshav Maharaj
30. Bert Ironmonger

2022 Pacemen Ranking 2024 Rankings Change
1. Malcolm Marshall 1 0
2. Glenn McGrath 2 0
3. Richard Hadlee 3 0
4. Curtly Ambrose 5 down 1
5. Dale Steyn 4 up 1
6. Imran Khan 6 0
7. Dennis Lillee 8 down 1
8. Fred Trueman 10 down 2
9. Wasim Akram 7 up 2
10. Allan Donald 9 up 1
11. Joel Garner 11 0
12. Ray Lindwall 12 0
13. Michael Holding 14 down 1
14. Waqar Younis 13 up 1
15. Alan Davidson 0
16. Shaun Pollock 16 0
17. Courtney Walsh 17 0
18. Andy Roberts 20 down 2
19. James Anderson 19 0
20. Pat Cummins 18 up 2
21. Keith Miller 25 down 4
22. Brian Statham 24 down 2
23. Bob Willis 26 down 3
24. Shoaib Akhtar 29 down 5
25. Harold Larwood 33 down 8
26. Ian Bishop 28 down 2
27. Neil Adcock 23 up 4
28. Wes Hall 31 down 3
29. Kagiso Rabada 21 up 8
30. Frank Tyson
31. Kapil Dev 29 up 2
32. John Snow 32 0
33. Jasprit Bumrah 22 up 11
34. Ian Botham 27 up 7
35. Stuart Broad 33 up 2
36. Peter Pollock
37. Neil Wagner
38. Jason Gillespie
39. Jeff Thomson
40. Tim Southee
Not included
S.Barnes
A.Bedser
V.Philander

Wait, Jadeja was voted as a better spinner than Kumble! Omg

capt_Luffy · Oct 7, 2024

Thala_0710 said:
Wait, Jadeja was voted as a better spinner than Kumble! Omg

He was voted for first place by 5 people on that round; 2 were proper votes and 3 meme.

Thala_0710 · Oct 7, 2024

capt_Luffy said:
He was voted for first place by 5 people on that round; 2 were proper votes and 3 meme.

Yeah it surely must have been meme voting

2022 v 2024 Bowlers Polls

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2022 Spinners Ranking	2024 Ranking	Change
1. Muttiah Muralitharan	1	0
2. Shane Warne	2	0
3. Bill O'Reilly	3	0
4. Jim Laker	5	down 1
5. Clarrie Grimmett	7	down 2
6. Hedley Verity	4	up 2
7. Hugh Tayfield	8	down 1
8. Anil Kumble	12	down 4
9. Derek Underwood	10	down 1
10. Lance Gibbs	9	up 1
11. Ravichandran Ashwin	6	up 5
12. Richie Benaud
13. Rangana Herath
14. Bhagwath Chandrasekhar
15. Bishen Bedi
16. Nathan Lyon	13	up 3
17. Saqlain Mushtaq
18. Graeme Swann
19. Ravindra Jadeja	11	up 8
20. Subhash Gupte
21. Hugh Trumble
22. Wilfred Rhodes
23. Colin Blythe
24. Johnny Wardle
25. Sonny Ramadhin
26. Erapally Prasanna
27. Stuart MacGill
28. Harbhajan Singh
29. Keshav Maharaj
30. Bert Ironmonger

2022 Pacemen Ranking	2024 Rankings	Change
1. Malcolm Marshall	1	0
2. Glenn McGrath	2	0
3. Richard Hadlee	3	0
4. Curtly Ambrose	5	down 1
5. Dale Steyn	4	up 1
6. Imran Khan	6	0
7. Dennis Lillee	8	down 1
8. Fred Trueman	10	down 2
9. Wasim Akram	7	up 2
10. Allan Donald	9	up 1
11. Joel Garner	11	0
12. Ray Lindwall	12	0
13. Michael Holding	14	down 1
14. Waqar Younis	13	up 1
15. Alan Davidson		0
16. Shaun Pollock	16	0
17. Courtney Walsh	17	0
18. Andy Roberts	20	down 2
19. James Anderson	19	0
20. Pat Cummins	18	up 2
21. Keith Miller	25	down 4
22. Brian Statham	24	down 2
23. Bob Willis	26	down 3
24. Shoaib Akhtar	29	down 5
25. Harold Larwood	33	down 8
26. Ian Bishop	28	down 2
27. Neil Adcock	23	up 4
28. Wes Hall	31	down 3
29. Kagiso Rabada	21	up 8
30. Frank Tyson
31. Kapil Dev	29	up 2
32. John Snow	32	0
33. Jasprit Bumrah	22	up 11
34. Ian Botham	27	up 7
35. Stuart Broad	33	up 2
36. Peter Pollock
37. Neil Wagner
38. Jason Gillespie
39. Jeff Thomson
40. Tim Southee

Not included
S.Barnes
A.Bedser
V.Philander