Owzat
U19 Captain
I concur, whilst conditions can be very different cross eras eg Grimmett averaged 24.59 at home, 23.86 away, Jadeja relies heavily on spin friendly home wickets to maintain a 24 average (20.79 at home, not dragged up higher overall due to not being ATG at all and picked less overseas sparing him)You really believe Ashwin belongs with those guys? I find it hard that anyone cant see the daylight between them and the rest of the spinners.
Ashwin does have a better balanced home-away split (60-40), but still home bias of 21.01 vs 29.90
sadly many phrases are worthless these days, bandied about too much, "worldie" in football, "ATG" the current fave in cricket it seems, and as I say of "world class" you'd struggle to get a consensus on not just definition but anything like enough agreement even as to how to measure it.... (and I don't mean stats necessarily, just how you decide who is and who ain't)
many would class Hadlee as an ATG all-rounder, whilst some case could be made for him his batting was very much his second string, still good, but TWO hundreds in 86 Tests is rather lacking even if you only compare with his own era (Botham, Kapil Dev, Imran Khan) and to be fair Wasim Akram is oft described thus but only registered THREE hundreds himself and indeed only seven fifties
just bowlers who are very good lower order batsmen, point being the term "all-rounder" is applied to almost anyone who can bat and bowl. in the loosest terminology yes they bat and bowl thus might be termed "all-rounders" but in truth were great bowlers, handy batsmen so surely term them as great bowlers rather than hinge their "greatness" as an all-rounder on their far stronger string.... I'd throw Marshall in as well, and whilst Kallis was a very good bowler he was a great batsman but many label all-rounder - nearly 300 wickets granted, but only five 5wis and ZERO 10wms.