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Ravichandran Ashwin vs Nathan Lyon

Who is the better test bowler?


  • Total voters
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PlayerComparisons

International Vice-Captain

No poll though. @PlayerComparisons, stop lazing around and get on to it.
I just do what the people want
 

centurymaker

Cricketer Of The Year
Lyon. Simply a superior all-round spinner.
I used to think Ashwin was overrated but he has proven himself on flatter pitches as well as abroad. He may have averaged like 3 points higher in another era but he is still better than any spinner India has had in the last 3 decades.
 

subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
I used to think Ashwin was overrated but he has proven himself on flatter pitches as well as abroad. He may have averaged like 3 points higher in another era but he is still better than any spinner India has had in the last 3 decades.
People claim he has proven himself abroad but my test is for a spinner to run through a side to win a game and he hasn't done that yet. Tho I think he has a good chance to do that this time in Australia.
 

Daemon

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I used to think Ashwin was overrated but he has proven himself on flatter pitches as well as abroad.
I wouldn’t go so far as to say he’s proven himself abroad (unless we’re including SL and WI). It’s been one very good series basically and a few decent outings here and there but he’s also had some pretty average to bad ones. Have to apply the same level of scrutiny as you should to Anderson and KW.

I think Lyon is the more rounded bowler, but he isn’t better overall. At worst they’re on par depending on subjectivity. Ashwin is just too good at dominating series at home to levels that are quite frankly ridiculous.
 

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
I wouldn’t go so far as to say he’s proven himself abroad (unless we’re including SL and WI). It’s been one very good series basically and a few decent outings here and there but he’s also had some pretty average to bad ones. Have to apply the same level of scrutiny as you should to Anderson and KW.

I think Lyon is the more rounded bowler, but he isn’t better overall. At worst they’re on par depending on subjectivity. Ashwin is just too good at dominating series at home to levels that are quite frankly ridiculous.
I also don't think Ashwin has necessarily proven himself abroad yet; but I definitely think his first series in SL against Sangakkara and co should definitely count.
 

subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
I wouldn’t go so far as to say he’s proven himself abroad (unless we’re including SL and WI). It’s been one very good series basically and a few decent outings here and there but he’s also had some pretty average to bad ones. Have to apply the same level of scrutiny as you should to Anderson and KW.

I think Lyon is the more rounded bowler, but he isn’t better overall. At worst they’re on par depending on subjectivity. Ashwin is just too good at dominating series at home to levels that are quite frankly ridiculous.
They don't because of the value of that good series to Indian cricket frankly which is frankly affecting their assessment.

Granted on your point of more balanced vs more damaging at home though and if Ashwin fans would admit that tradeoff between Lyon and Ashwin we could have a more interesting conversation as opposed to pretending it's a non-contest.
 

subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
I also don't think Ashwin has necessarily proven himself abroad yet; but I definitely think his first series in SL against Sangakkara and co should definitely count.
Abroad is the wrong word. In non-SC conditions is better. I have little doubt Ashwin would do well in Pakistan/UAE too.
 

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