A comparison of Test bowlers with 300 wickets

[centurymaker]

Hayden’s being significantly better than Sehwag’s was definitely a surprise for me - though likely due to his bowling attack being far stronger, thus reducing the batting output of opposition teams (and therefore overall batting average).

To get a high percentage output, as a batter you need a middling batting lineup and a strong bowling attack for your team. This keeps match averages low and your percentage output high.

On the contrary, if your team has a strong batting lineup and a mediocre bowling attack. This keeps match averages high and your percentage output low.

 

[Sunil1z]

To get a high percentage output, as a batter you need a middling batting lineup and a strong bowling attack for your team. This keeps match averages low and your percentage output high.

On the contrary, if your team has a strong batting lineup and a mediocre bowling attack. This keeps match averages high and your percentage output low.

However one thing that @shortpitched713 has said is definitely true. Tendulkar’s inability to dominate in a series. Jaiswal just had a 700+ series at the age of 22 years while Tendulkar never had a 500+ series in his career .

 

[centurymaker]

However one thing that @shortpitched713 has said is definitely true. Tendulkar’s inability to dominate in a series. Jaiswal just had a 700+ series at the age of 22 years while Tendulkar never had a 500+ series in his career .

True but Tendulkar's peak was in the 90s and early 00s and India didn't use to play many tests back then. Plus in 9 years between 1993 and Jan 2002, India played just one series with more than 3 matches. So obviously had India played more tests in his peak, like his later years, his stats would probably be even more impressive and we wouldn't be talking about lack of big run scoring series.

Other reason is that he was no longer the same batsman from like 2003, was world class but no longer godly except for brief periods.

 

[_00_deathscar]

However one thing that @shortpitched713 has said is definitely true. Tendulkar’s inability to dominate in a series. Jaiswal just had a 700+ series at the age of 22 years while Tendulkar never had a 500+ series in his career .

Also only played 3 (?) 5 match series in his entire career, but yes everyone generally agrees he didn’t have dominating series like some of the others did.

 

[Archer6K]

Robert Abel 111% better
Stanley Jackson 92% better

 

[shortpitched713]

Play in a weaker lineup and your output will be a higher percentage.

Play in a strong ATG lineup like Ponting (65%) and Hayden (61%), or Tendulkar (62%), Dravid (59%) and Sehwag (44%) and your output will be a lower percentage.

It's not rocket science.

I mean, it can also be inflated if your opponents are weaker too, if I'm understanding the measure correctly.

My only point is that Tendulkar is not a standout by this measure. Also, I'm not sure how great India's lower order and tail batsmen were, as this is a measure of the overall percentage above averages in matches played, not just for the top order, which no doubt India's was extremely good.

 

[shortpitched713]

People should stop taking these stats literally. Kohli is not a better Test bat than Tendulkar/Ponting/ Waugh . Stop cherry picking stats to suit your argument.

Of course Kohli isn't.

But Sangakkara is.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Both pale in comparison to the English big three js js.

Miandad was also one that really surprised me.

Miandad is pakistan umpiring. They never gave him out and gave opposition out far too often

 

[shortpitched713]

Miandad is pakistan umpiring. They never gave him out and gave opposition out far too often

Actually, they gave him out far too often, and hardly gave the opposition out at all.

See below match, where the opposition won in a single innings, and umpires had the audacity to give Miandad out caught:

PAK vs WI Cricket Scorecard, 2nd Test at Lahore, November 07 - 09, 1986

Get cricket scorecard of 2nd Test, PAK vs WI, West Indies tour of Pakistan 1986/87 at Gaddafi Stadium, Lahore dated November 07 - 09, 1986.

www.espncricinfo.com

 

[CricAddict]

Also only played 3 (?) 5 match series in his entire career, but yes everyone generally agrees he didn’t have dominating series like some of the others did.

Some of his series vs Australia were as dominating as it could be. He even dominated their domestic match which Mumbai won Australia within 3 days in 1996. As has been pointed out already, if any of the series in 1996-98 against Australia or any other team were 5 tests instead of 3 tests, he easily would be having couple of 500+ run series.

 

[centurymaker]

Some of his series vs Australia were as dominating as it could be. He even dominated their domestic match which Mumbai won Australia within 3 days in 1996. As has been pointed out already, if any of the series in 1996-98 against Australia or any other team were 5 tests instead of 3 tests, he easily would be having couple of 500+ run series.

Even if they were 4 Tests long