Jacques Kallis vs Kumar Sangakkara ( as Test batsmen )

[shortpitched713]

Surprisingly, there's never been a poll which does a straight comparison of them as Test batsmen. So which one was greater, in your mind?


Their performances were very comparable, but I will have to go with Sangakkara, for two reasons. 1) I think his second half career peak was more dominant than any phase of Kallis's career, 2) I think Kallis had somewhat more batting support, especially in the part of his career where he had G. Smith as an opener in front of him. Sanga never had that level of quality supporting him, imo.

 

[subshakerz]

On pure record, neither has a big enough advantage over the other.

Sanga weaker in SA and India, Kallis weaker in Eng and SL. Both gouged on minnows. Both benefitted from the flat pitch era. Both fairly strong against pace and spin. Kallis' home record is very impressive, whereas Sanga has many more double tons.

Sanga was a much more aggressive and intimidating bat, and that is the key advantage.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Both better than Ponting though amiright?

 

[Coronis]

Both better than Ponting though amiright?

Yes.

 

[Coronis]

Think I had them 12th and 13th at last check - not much between them at all, I’d have to take another look.

 

[kyear2]

Both better than Ponting though amiright?

No

 

[kyear2]

Kallis, much tougher home conditions to deal with.

 

[Coronis]

No

 

[subshakerz]

Both better than Ponting though amiright?

Lol no way.

 

[subshakerz]

Kallis, much tougher home conditions to deal with.

Strange how for you this applies to Kallis and not Imran

Anyways, it's impressive but lessened based on him not doing as well in England.

 

[Sunil1z]

Strange how for you this applies to Kallis and not Imran

Anyways, it's impressive but lessened based on him not doing as well in England.

Does Imran really have tough home conditions? He knew reverse swing . If you know reverse swing, Asia isn’t hard place to bowl .

 

[capt_Luffy]

Think I had them 12th and 13th at last check - not much between them at all, I’d have to take another look.

Last on mine rankings;
Sangakkara - 17
Kallis - 19
Ponting - 22

 

[subshakerz]

Does Imran really have tough home conditions? He knew reverse swing . If you know reverse swing, Asia isn’t hard place to bowl .

Yes they are tougher for pacers, regardless of whether he developed skills to counter that.

Low bounce and you still have to wait for the ball to get old. And certain pitches are so flat that reverse even is neutralised. It's not like it's as easy as bowling on SA seaming tracks.

 

[Sunil1z]

Yes they are tougher for pacers, regardless of whether he developed skills to counter that.

Low bounce and you still have to wait for the ball to get old. And certain pitches are so flat that reverse even is neutralised. It's not like it's as easy as bowling on SA seaming tracks.

I would say I remember more number of bowlers who had success in Asia than number of batsmen who are successful in SA .

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Waiting to hear @Himannv's response to this thread, and then I will make a decision.

 

[subshakerz]

I would say I remember more number of bowlers who had success in Asia than number of batsmen who are successful in SA .

Really? I think it's roughly around the same.

 

[Sunil1z]

Really? I think it's roughly around the same.

None of Tendulkar, Ponting, Lara Sangakkara, Dravid average 50 in SA .

 

[capt_Luffy]

None of Tendulkar, Ponting, Lara Sangakkara, Dravid average 50 in SA .

Tendulkar was definitely successful in South Africa. The others I can really think of are Virat Kohli and Steve Waugh.

 

[Sunil1z]

Tendulkar was definitely successful in South Africa. The others I can really think of are Virat Kohli and Steve Waugh.

Ponting and Lara were also successful . But they didn’t average 50 .

 

[subshakerz]

Ponting and Lara were also successful . But they didn’t average 50 .

Ok I didn't think averaging 50 was that benchmark but I can also think of Waugh and Warner off the top of my head who succeeded there.