Ryan Harris vs Tim Southee

[Burgey]

Harris had a decade of less than useless longevity too.

Much like yourself on this website.

 

[SteveNZ]

I mean, it's Harris by a fair stretch. It's not actually really close. Bloke was a genuine consistent gun. Look at his Test record, he barely went two innings without taking a decent bag.

 

[OverratedSanity]

How do NZ posters overrate Harris more than Aussies somehow.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

How do NZ posters overrate Harris more than Aussies somehow.

Because then it allows them to overrate Bond

 

[SteveNZ]

How do NZ posters overrate Harris more than Aussies somehow.

You don't rate 113 wickets at 23s? 57 Ashes wickets at 20s?

Pull up his innings by innings bowling list and look at his insane consistency. He took 0 wickets twice in a row once, and one of them was 0-6 off 8, and he took 5-for in that second innings.

Ryan Harris was a beast.

Tim Southee is not a beast, but had very, very good periods.

 

[SteveNZ]

Because then it allows them to overrate Bond

It says who is the better Test bowler, not who had the better career. Ryan Harris is a miles better bowler than Tim Southee when fit.

Same with Shane Bond. Step up above world class at his peak, but didn't have a career.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Ryan Harris is what Zaheer khan would be if he was only first selected in 2007 and retired in 2012.

 

[Flem274*]

Because then it allows them to overrate Bond

Actually it's because we watch cricket.

Most of us lived through his career. Come on. It was Steyn then the Aussies and Poms going hard at each other on Harris vs Anderson, and it was this exact argument of good vs great except with more cloud references.

 

[Athlai]

Ryan Harris is what Zaheer khan would be if he was only first selected in 2007 and retired in 2012.

Zaheer Khan ****ing sucks

 

[SteveNZ]

Ryan Harris is what Zaheer khan would be if he was only first selected in 2007 and retired in 2012.

You sure? Zaheer Khan only averaged less in a single calendar year (2010) of his career than Ryan Harris across his entire career. And he averaged 29 in that period you mentioned.

Math does not add up, my man.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Zaheer Khan ****ing sucks

Exactly my man

 

[Flem274*]

You sure? Zaheer Khan only averaged less in a single calendar year (2010) of his career than Ryan Harris across his entire career. And he averaged 29 in that period you mentioned.

Math does not add up, my man.

That and, as usual, we're throwing out the 'go watch them' test.

Harris bowled to an ATG level for his 7 year career or whatever it was. Zaheer arguably did it for about 1 or 2. Southee for 2-3.

 

[SteveNZ]

Yep, true. I didn't really watch Zaheer Khan much so I went back to the stats, and they didn't look pretty however they were cut up.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Tbf, this is still less stupid than picking Harris over Anderson so I'll give you guys a break.

 

[Athlai]

Did Harris play even half of Australia's Tests from his debut till final Test?

7 year career my ass

 

[Athlai]

Did Harris play even half of Australia's Tests from his debut till final Test?

7 year career my ass

Exactly half 27/54 and this is a kind analysis because I'm making the cutoff 10 Jan 2015.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Exactly half 27/54 and this is a kind analysis because I'm making the cutoff 10 Jan 2015.

So Harris had like a 2.5 year career basically

 

[Athlai]

So Harris had like a 2.5 year career basically

He played 27 Tests for Australia who play a good 10 a year

 

[Athlai]

Southee has missed 32 Tests since his debut

 

[SteveNZ]

Yeah, but it says who is the better bowler. Ryan Harris is a better bowler. It doesn't say who had a better career. Whose career would I choose for NZ? Tim Southee, without even blinking.