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*Official* Australia tour of New Zealand Feb-Mar 2024

jcas0167

International Debutant
Had Inglis gotten dropped NZ win that game IMO. Wonder if we might see a tactical drop at some point....
Sad but true. Didn't know much about David but as soon as he walked out he looked like a big unit who would be more dangerous than Inglis.
 

Burgey

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Had Inglis gotten dropped NZ win that game IMO. Wonder if we might see a tactical drop at some point....
Blokes used to do this in an intra club nine a side comp we held each year where we mixed up the players from all the different grades. Got so bad we brought in a rule the batting captain could retire a bloke after they’d faced >10 balls to stop sides deliberately dropping catches to keep the B52 players in
 

Pup Clarke

Cricketer Of The Year
Just casually dropping into this thread and wondering how Southee is still playing this format???

Great test bowler, but he was never even that good to begin with in T20s?
If he was a gun in his earlier days then I could maybe understand persevering with him.

Is this too simplistic an analysis, or do NZ feel that he's genuinely still the best option?
 

ataraxia

International Coach
lol Inglis
lol Southee

Very good news for the guys we didn't expect to perform though: Conway, Rachin, Lockie.
 

King Kane

International Regular
Sad but true. Didn't know much about David but as soon as he walked out he looked like a big unit who would be more dangerous than Inglis.
Tim David can be a dangerous finisher especially when you pitch it up in the slot to him like Milne and Southee did in the last couple of overs.

Some shorter balls might have been a better option to him, he doesn't seem to play them as well from what I've seen of him.
 

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
Haha fun match. Crowd would have gone home entertained - was really as good a t20 as you'll see.

Loved to see Ferguson bowl a good spell. Don't know wtf was with NZ's fielding though, whether the dropped catches, Phillips being too hyperactive to do the basics or just Conway's drop-bye, without which it would've been a tie. Unbelievable number of errors in just 120 balls.

Great chase, Marsh always biffs NZ bowlers.
 

thierry henry

International Coach
Just casually dropping into this thread and wondering how Southee is still playing this format???

Great test bowler, but he was never even that good to begin with in T20s?
If he was a gun in his earlier days then I could maybe understand persevering with him.

Is this too simplistic an analysis, or do NZ feel that he's genuinely still the best option?
His overall record is actually kinda ok as is his recent form? I wouldn’t call him a ‘must pick’ but neither has his ongoing selection in T20s been inexplicable. The format he is truly **** in is ODIs.
 

Daemon

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Tim David can be a dangerous finisher especially when you pitch it up in the slot to him like Milne and Southee did in the last couple of overs.

Some shorter balls might have been a better option to him, he doesn't seem to play them as well from what I've seen of him.
He’s very bad against spin and the fast short stuff. Milne should have bowled short but Southee had little choice but to try for yorkers given his pace. He just failed at execution.
 

Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
Just casually dropping into this thread and wondering how Southee is still playing this format???

Great test bowler, but he was never even that good to begin with in T20s?
If he was a gun in his earlier days then I could maybe understand persevering with him.

Is this too simplistic an analysis, or do NZ feel that he's genuinely still the best option?
Despite being terrible tonight has actually been pretty decent in T20is - has 157 wickets with Shakib 2nd on 140.

An attack of Ferguson, Milne, and young Ben Sears would've been exciting though as well as very fast
 

King Kane

International Regular
Just casually dropping into this thread and wondering how Southee is still playing this format???

Great test bowler, but he was never even that good to begin with in T20s?
If he was a gun in his earlier days then I could maybe understand persevering with him.

Is this too simplistic an analysis, or do NZ feel that he's genuinely still the best option?
I don't think many NZ supporters think he's the best option for us as a T20 bowler but the NZ selectors seem to be obliged to still pick him regardless.
 

jcas0167

International Debutant
Haha fun match. Crowd would have gone home entertained - was really as good a t20 as you'll see.

Loved to see Ferguson bowl a good spell. Don't know wtf was with NZ's fielding though, whether the dropped catches, Phillips being too hyperactive to do the basics or just Conway's drop-bye, without which it would've been a tie. Unbelievable number of errors in just 120 balls.

Great chase, Marsh always biffs NZ bowlers.
Absolutely, watching Ferguson bowl Maxwell was worth the price of admission in itself. Ravindra's innings superb and you had to admire the clean hitting of Marsh and David. Maxwell responding to some heckler in a CD cap was pretty funny too.Screenshot_20240221-234414_Gallery.jpg
 

King Kane

International Regular
He’s very bad against spin and the fast short stuff. Milne should have bowled short but Southee had little choice but to try for yorkers given his pace. He just failed at execution.
That's the problem with Southee, at his pace he needs to nail the yorkers but too often he misses his line and length and gets punished like tonight.

Not much good nailing a couple of yorkers in an over when the rest of the balls are wides outside off or full tosses or slot balls on the pads.

He can still be a useful bowler in T20s and ODIs but you can't rely on him bowling at the death.
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Like I mentioned in an earlier post, one bowler too many in this team now. Sodhi can be sacrificed for a batsman till Bracewell gets fit and he can be dumped once and for all.
Nah, NZ's real problem was they read the pitch wrong. Wasn't a surface for two specialist spinners. Sodhi went alright all things considered but NZ really needed a 4th quick
 

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
Blokes used to do this in an intra club nine a side comp we held each year where we mixed up the players from all the different grades. Got so bad we brought in a rule the batting captain could retire a bloke after they’d faced >10 balls to stop sides deliberately dropping catches to keep the B52 players in
I once played in a T20 game where batsmen had to retire at 30. We foolishly made the mistake of taking the 9th wicket and allowing a previously retired player back in with 5 overs to go....it cost us the game.
 

CricAddict

Cricketer Of The Year
Nah, NZ's real problem was they read the pitch wrong. Wasn't a surface for two specialist spinners. Sodhi went alright all things considered but NZ really needed a 4th quick
They did have a fourth quick in Clarkson in the XI. Could have been tried at least for an over, especially after seeing Rachin clobber Zampa so easily for sixes.
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
They did have a fourth quick in Clarkson in the XI. Could have been tried at least for an over, especially after seeing Rachin clobber Zampa so easily for sixes.
I mean a rfm or rf. A medium pacer like Clarkson would've gotten smashed
 

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