*Official* Australia tour of New Zealand Feb-Mar 2024

[RossTaylorsBox]

Shut up Scott

 

[thierry henry]

I know I’m obliged to renounce my NZ citizenship for saying this but…

I’m a little bit worried about some of the carry on that might go on in the crowd, mostly directed at Warner. A vociferous pro-NZ crowd is awesome, but there’s a level of hysterical vitriol towards Warner here I’ve never really understood. I’m sure he’ll be constantly booed, which I personally think is pretty cringey but whatever, but I suspect it’ll get a lot uglier than that.

Has he actually hinted at an impending retirement? I guess strictly speaking we can’t know if he’s playing his last innings in NZ on this tour. Giving even a grudging farewell round of applause is pretty customary and I daresay it’ll get pretty ugly if there’s any suggestion he should receive one after Game 3.

Apologies again to all New Zealanders for this post.

 

[Athlai]

Warner is a heel and a bit of a cheat (minor) but I've always sort of seen him as about as unlikable as Baz would be if here were Australian.

 

[Spark]

I know I’m obliged to renounce my NZ citizenship for saying this but…

I’m a little bit worried about some of the carry on that might go on in the crowd, mostly directed at Warner. A vociferous pro-NZ crowd is awesome, but there’s a level of hysterical vitriol towards Warner here I’ve never really understood. I’m sure he’ll be constantly booed, which I personally think is pretty cringey but whatever, but I suspect it’ll get a lot uglier than that.

Has he actually hinted at an impending retirement? I guess strictly speaking we can’t know if he’s playing his last innings in NZ on this tour. Giving even a grudging farewell round of applause is pretty customary and I daresay it’ll get pretty ugly if there’s any suggestion he should receive one after Game 3.

Apologies again to all New Zealanders for this post.

He's confirmed that he's only playing international T20s until the WC yeah. He's claimed that he'll be available for the Champions Trophy in ODIs but nothing else.

 

[Bahnz]

A part of the issue is this is I think is his first trip here since sandpapergate, so morons will see it as their first opportunity to stick it to him. Tbf, more people might've completely forgotten about it if Mitch Johnson hadn't decided to call him out for it in such a public way.

 

[thierry henry]

He's confirmed that he's only playing international T20s until the WC yeah. He's claimed that he'll be available for the Champions Trophy in ODIs but nothing else.

Well then - Unless NZers are much better people than I give us credit for, when he gets out in game 3 and the ground announcer says “ladies and gentleman, let’s farewell the great David Warner” - I literally expect a full house booing and chanting ‘Warner’s a wanker’ or worse. Not the end of the world, but I’d find it pretty embarrassing.

 

[The Hutt Rec]

I don't see anything like that happening, but why not at least wait and see if it does before slagging off Kiwi crowds?

 

[SteveNZ]

Well then - Unless NZers are much better people than I give us credit for, when he gets out in game 3 and the ground announcer says “ladies and gentleman, let’s farewell the great David Warner” - I literally expect a full house booing and chanting ‘Warner’s a wanker’ or worse. Not the end of the world, but I’d find it pretty embarrassing.

It wouldn't be the first time, right? I'm trying to remember who we've booed before. I don't like Warner as a person or particularly as a player, but I wouldn't be booing. I don't think it's necessary, but Warner's never had any issue with verbal assaults on opposition players so I'm not actually phased.

Incidentally, the Barmy Army did this for Adam Parore in his final Test, simply because he appealed for an obvious not out nick off Andre Adams. Never mind that Doug Cowie was the guy who missed the clear gap between bat and bat, which I saw 34 beers into my day on the Terraces.

 

[thierry henry]

I don't see anything like that happening, but why not at least wait and see if it does before slagging off Kiwi crowds?

Because predicting what might happen in the future is like, one of the main types of forum post

 

[SteveNZ]

With the popularity of the ACC, and their 'he's a wounder' song + their disdain for him, I think you can expect there'll be a fair few raspberries for ol' Davey.

I dare say he loves the attention, as that putrid baggy green carry-on, having a farewell 'I'm retiring in 9 games' time' tour etc.

 

[The Hutt Rec]

Because predicting what might happen in the future is like, one of the main types of forum post

You could bring a downer to Christmas day.

 

[kaetor]

General NZ behaviour towards Australia in sports is woeful and kinda embarrassing IMO. It goes well beyond banter and in to genuine anger sometimes. Would love to see it toned down a bit, but yeah with the tours being few and far between I reckon we could see some nasty stuff, hope to be proven wrong though!

 

[thierry henry]

With the popularity of the ACC, and their 'he's a wounder' song + their disdain for him, I think you can expect there'll be a fair few raspberries for ol' Davey.
I dare say he loves the attention, as that putrid baggy green carry-on, having a farewell 'I'm retiring in 9 games' time' tour etc.

Yeah I’m definitely influenced in my expectations by being surrounded by the ACC fan demographic who find ‘he’s a wounder’ and sandpaper jokes to be elite comedy.

 

[thierry henry]

You could bring a downer to Christmas day.

Definitely, Christmas Day is a massive pain in the arse and don’t get me started on how much I have to spend on presents

 

[Athlai]

I'd stand for the man when he walks out for the last time
I'd also probably clap with the beat of Warner's a Wanker

The duality of man

 

[thierry henry]

General NZ behaviour towards Australia in sports is woeful and kinda embarrassing IMO. It goes well beyond banter and in to genuine anger sometimes. Would love to see it toned down a bit, but yeah with the tours being few and far between I reckon we could see some nasty stuff, hope to be proven wrong though!

Yeah there’s a genuine undercurrent of hate and a belief that we can do whatever we want and it’s justified because it’s Australia. Makes me uneasy is all.

 

[SteveNZ]

Yeah I’m definitely influenced in my expectations by being surrounded by the ACC fan demographic who find ‘he’s a wounder’ and sandpaper jokes to be elite comedy.

I don't mix in these circles (thank god) but I get it. It started great, and the rare times I tune in, I wish I hadn't. How they got the contract to do Super Rugby pre-season games (is it the whole season?? God forbid if so) on NZR+ is insanity to me. They seem to revel in the fact people don't like them, whilst I think missing that initially it was mainly Boomers who hated it, but now it's anyone who actually knows decent humour.

Having said that, I did listen for a bit the other day when they had a s*xologist on with Leigh Hart and Mike Lane - that was funny.

 

[GoodAreasShane]

If I'm completely honest, the more I hear people bleat on about "mUh SaNdPaPeRgAtE", be it former cricketers like Johnson or be it nobodies online, it genuinely makes me think more highly of Warner than I likely otherwise would.

The level of moralistic pearl clutching is truly absurd, the whole idea that this is somehow orders of magnitude worse than any of the other many and varied instances of ball tampering in the long history of the game is just one that fundamentally loses all sense of perspective

 

[Chubb]

Yeah there’s a genuine undercurrent of hate and a belief that we can do whatever we want and it’s justified because it’s Australia.

When fighting the ultimate evil, anything is justified.

 

[thierry henry]

I don't mix in these circles (thank god) but I get it. It started great, and the rare times I tune in, I wish I hadn't. How they got the contract to do Super Rugby pre-season games (is it the whole season?? God forbid if so) on NZR+ is insanity to me. They seem to revel in the fact people don't like them, whilst I think missing that initially it was mainly Boomers who hated it, but now it's anyone who actually knows decent humour.

Having said that, I did listen for a bit the other day when they had a s*xologist on with Leigh Hart and Mike Lane - that was funny.

Oh yeah I don’t even particularly dislike them (I don’t listen to their commentary but I do follow them on socials etc), I just meant that I know a lot of people who also follow them and share a lot of the (pretty repetitive) humour and I feel like that ‘subculture’ is fomenting a lot of the vitriol. ACC aside, you could probably equally call that subculture ‘sporty beer drinking white millennial men’ though.