How would 80s WI and 2000s Australia fare in unbeatable current India?

[subshakerz]

Did you think that such a day would come that you would be accused of being patriotic for India?

It's happened before. When I was defending Dravid or Tendulkar.

 

[subshakerz]

Wait, subs isn’t Indian?

Ask @honestbharani

 

[Spark]

Sydney's recent pitches have mostly been dead horrible roads, I'm not sure why people persist with the myth that it's spin friendly. Those days are well into the past.

 

[Xix2565]

Sydney's recent pitches have mostly been dead horrible roads, I'm not sure why people persist with the myth that it's spin friendly. Those days are well into the past.

Do you think it's difficult now to make spin friendly tracks anywhere in Australia? Or is it just something that the curators aren't interested in making?

 

[Spark]

Do you think it's difficult now to make spin friendly tracks anywhere in Australia? Or is it just something that the curators aren't interested in making?

Drop-ins have made it hard, the current generation of curators don't seem great at their jobs, and I strongly suspect that climate change is really starting to mess with traditional pitch preparation.

It's not for nothing that Lyon's favourite decks are bouncy greentops.

 

[honestbharani]

Didn't say it was right or wrong. I'm asking how do we feel about it.

And every team? Plus 2014 is a decade of a quite lengthy history of the game.

And don't get so defensive, I'm not attacking anyone.

Mate, every country has been preparing pitches that help or suit them from 2015 on wards. You calling out very specific nations is the delusional part.

 

[honestbharani]

Ask @honestbharani

Subzi talking to Playercomp

 

[Spark]

Mate, every country has been preparing pitches that help or suit them from 2015 on wards. You calling out very specific nations is the delusional part.

I really feel like we've stopped doing that here. Pitches here have become dramatically more bowler friendly and it's causing issues for the team (though leading to infinitely more watchable Tests).

Mind you it's better than preparing the worst roads ever seen by mankind and ending Mitch Johnson's career.

 

[subshakerz]

Subzi talking to Playercomp

Me being thought of being Indian is further evidence I am the least nationally biased poster on CW.

 

[Xix2565]

Me being thought of being Indian is further evidence I am the least nationally biased poster on CW.

Hold on there, this is pure delusion now.

 

[kyear2]

Me being thought of being Indian is further evidence I am the least nationally biased poster on CW.

No, no.....

 

[honestbharani]

I really feel like we've stopped doing that here. Pitches here have become dramatically more bowler friendly and it's causing issues for the team (though leading to infinitely more watchable Tests).

Mind you it's better than preparing the worst roads ever seen by mankind and ending Mitch Johnson's career.

I don't think Adelaide suddenly becoming more bouncy and seamy was an exception. Perhaps they struggle with execution but I dont think its a coincidence that Aussie pitches had the least sideways movement (Swing or spin) across all countries during this period.

 

[Spark]

I don't think Adelaide suddenly becoming more bouncy and seamy was an exception. Perhaps they struggle with execution but I dont think its a coincidence that Aussie pitches had the least sideways movement (Swing or spin) across all countries during this period.

You mean the mid-10s? See my previous comment re: weather and climate. It's no accident that pitches were incredibly flat during a severe drought and then became increasingly seam-friendly as we've racked up more and more wet years in a row.

 

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It's happened before. When I was defending Dravid or Tendulkar.

Somebody needs to find the 'Subs is just a biased Indian' post. If you read it, you probably remember it. That was gold.

 

[subshakerz]

Somebody needs to find the 'Subs is just a biased Indian' post. If you read it, you probably remember it. That was gold.

I was accused by a fellow Pakistani.

 

[Daemon]

You mean the mid-10s? See my previous comment re: weather and climate. It's no accident that pitches were incredibly flat during a severe drought and then became increasingly seam-friendly as we've racked up more and more wet years in a row.

Cant you like, just water it lol

can’t solve for moisture in the air which affects swing i guess

 

[Spark]

Cant you like, just water it lol

can’t solve for moisture in the air which affects swing i guess

If you water it too much then you risk getting pitches which are massive raging greentops on Day 1... which is by far the best time to bat. That's because the wicket block underneath is like a gigantic block of concrete under the soft grass on top, so it starts fast and bouncy and only gets even faster and bouncier. Meanwhile all the indentations the ball makes on the soft surface harden and turn into little divots which causes all sorts of inconsistencies which become legitimately unplayable on Day 3 with significant seam movement, uneven bounce and all at lightning pace. The Perth Test against Pakistan was actually a version of this and that became really really dicey to bat on by Day 3 with tons of batsmen on both sides getting hit on the body, arms, gloves etc. So player safety alone dictates that you can't really solve it by watering it a lot.

 

[Daemon]

If you water it too much then you risk getting pitches which are massive raging greentops on Day 1... which is by far the best time to bat. That's because the wicket block underneath is like a gigantic block of concrete under the soft grass on top, so it starts fast and bouncy and only gets even faster and bouncier. Meanwhile all the indentations the ball makes on the soft surface harden and turn into little divots which causes all sorts of inconsistencies which become legitimately unplayable on Day 3 with significant seam movement, uneven bounce and all at lightning pace. The Perth Test against Pakistan was actually a version of this and that became really really dicey to bat on by Day 3 with tons of batsmen on both sides getting hit on the body, arms, gloves etc. So player safety alone dictates that you can't really solve it by watering it a lot.

Then water it a bit less

 

[Spark]

Then water it a bit less

Alright but then it's still just a seamy road which has movement for like 30 overs with the new rock. We actually had a fair few of those in that period, those could be some of the most boringly one-sided games of all.

 

[Coronis]

Alright but then it's still just a seamy road which has movement for like 30 overs with the new rock. We actually had a fair few of those in that period, those could be some of the most boringly one-sided games of all.

Then water it just right?