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***Official*** West Indies tour of Australia, Jan–Feb 2024

Spark

Global Moderator
Yeah but I do think we can carry two allrounders in the top six. Green can develop into a proper test class batsman but isn’t there yet, but Marsh is nothing more than a stop gap solution, as good as he’s been. Theres just an inherent fragility with him there imo.
Yeah I agree, but the biggest issue is at #3. I personally still feel like MMarsh isn't that long for this team, especially if he's (rightly) superseded by Green in the bowling pecking order. I don't think he's good enough to survive on his batting alone; Green (when bowling like he did yesterday) at least adds a lot more to the table other than batting.
 

Gnske

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Incidentally amongst all this the "can the second greatest batsman in the country's history open the batting" conversation was also killed stone dead today, so wins all around. Just needed Green to not get that cracker and it would have been an all around flawless day of cricket.
If only Hitler stayed blind after being mustard gassed he'd have never gone to grab beers in Munich
 

Shady Slim

International Coach
Yeah I agree, but the biggest issue is at #3. I personally still feel like MMarsh isn't that long for this team, especially if he's (rightly) superseded by Green in the bowling pecking order.
i suppose the big question is what do we do at six after the marsh era? slide green to six again, and find a new four, or?
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Yeah but if you don't have hope then what else is left?

I said it last night and I'll say it again: there are the bones of a properly competitive team here. They just need Kraigg and Chanders Jr to come good and find one more batsman... somehow...
Kraig is 31, I think it's a bit late to hope he comes good.
 

Burgey

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Yeah I agree, but the biggest issue is at #3. I personally still feel like MMarsh isn't that long for this team, especially if he's (rightly) superseded by Green in the bowling pecking order. I don't think he's good enough to survive on his batting alone; Green (when bowling like he did yesterday) at least adds a lot more to the table other than batting.
Yeah agree with all that. Three is always the most important position in the line up because 1 fer isn’t a big deal but 2 fer always is.
 

Flem274*

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Brathwaite was not at his level this tour though, he was way way below his level. But yes something needs to be done to support WI cricket at the FC level; it might require radical options like inviting top tier WI prospects to participate in other FC systems.
Hmm could bottleneck talent, and the best FC systems throw up late bloomers who you thought were journeymen who are actually really good. Head, Khawaja, Mitch Marsh, Chris Rogers, Adam Voges etc.

They just need to sort the pitches out under pain of death.
 

Burgey

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Smith carrying his bat a moral victory for Australia in their alpha thinking of we don't need 2 openers.
We didn’t have any openers going by that line of thinking, given the other bloke didn’t start doing it til a couple of years ago
 

morgieb

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i suppose the big question is what do we do at six after the marsh era? slide green to six again, and find a new four, or?
Usually the #6 before they started trying to pick all-rounders was a young guy who wasn't properly established in the team. So I guess they'd just pick the next best batsman out of the team unless he was an opener. In which case....I dunno.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
Hmm could bottleneck talent, and the best FC systems throw up late bloomers who you thought were journeymen who are actually really good. Head, Khawaja, Mitch Marsh, Chris Rogers, Adam Voges etc.

They just need to sort the pitches out under pain of death.
Haha the first three names absolutely do not fall under that category; those three were talent-ID'd young and had to have plenty of Test experience under their belts - like, 30-40+ Tests - until they really "came good". They learned their craft at the top level, not at FC level.
 

ataraxia

International Coach
i suppose the big question is what do we do at six after the marsh era? slide green to six again, and find a new four, or?
Well then you have the luxury of playing a young specialist batter at #6 (McSweeney?). Or, if Head stops being such a helpful hack when in early strife, he can slot down a spot.
 

Gnske

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
You just know the ICC will be fair and choose to now treat West Indies with the respect that the BCCI thinks they deserve
 

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