Height vs pace: which is more important for pace bowler success?

[sledger]

7-8 inches extra

if only

 

[kyear2]

Slightly higher I would assume.

I would as well. I would also assume Donald would have been rapid and Marshall in '83 till about '86 had surpassed Holding in speed.

 

[StephenZA]

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Why the speed of fast bowling in cricket seems to have stalled.

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[kyear2]

In baseball, hasn't it basically stalled about about the same speeds?

 

[bagapath]

How fast was Holding on average? High 80's, low 90's?

from 1976 to '81, I would say he would have regularly bowled in the low 90s.
and from 1983 to '87, he would have gradually dropped down to high 80s.

can't think of more than 5/6 names of those who remained in the "fast" category even after dropping some pace due to age in the last stage of their career. Holding is one of them.

 

[Jumno]

Pace for sure.

 

[Jumno]

Shoaib's pace can beat and find the batsman edge making the pace extra harder for batsman to counter.

 

[reyrey]

There is an accurate 6foot tall pacer out there who can bowl 90+ MPH and because of his bowling action and long arms he has a release point comparable to a much taller bowler. Unfortunately he is always injured

 

[Ali TT]

In baseball, hasn't it basically stalled about about the same speeds?

A lot of "performance gains" in baseball outside the standard fitness regimen. Although probably the same in cricket in the 90s-00s.

I don't think many fast bowlers average 90+ all the time, at least in test cricket, so we're pretty much in fantasy land if we're talking about averaging 95.

 

[Jumno]

A lot of "performance gains" in baseball outside the standard fitness regimen. Although probably the same in cricket in the 90s-00s.

I don't think many fast bowlers average 90+ all the time, at least in test cricket, so we're pretty much in fantasy land if we're talking about averaging 95.

Im confident I seen a video which Tait hit the mid 90s in one over.

Tait may be one of the quickest ever.

 

[Ali TT]

Im confident I seen a video which Tait hit the mid 90s in one over.

Tait may be one of the quickest ever.

One over, yes, over after over, spell after spell, match after match, no

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

There were 2 guys from the island of Barbados in the early 00’s who were rapid. Both of them short.

Can you name them?

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

The things that Archer can do with the ball with that height was something.

Anyways, nothing compared to EbaGOAT.

 

[kyear2]

A lot of "performance gains" in baseball outside the standard fitness regimen. Although probably the same in cricket in the 90s-00s.

I don't think many fast bowlers average 90+ all the time, at least in test cricket, so we're pretty much in fantasy land if we're talking about averaging 95.

When I hear averaging 95, I think consistently hitting the mid 90's to start a spell.

Don't think anyone can consistently average that over any sustained period of time.

 

[subshakerz]

When I hear averaging 95, I think consistently hitting the mid 90's to start a spell.

Don't think anyone can consistently average that over any sustained period of time.

Brett Lee was the closest.

 

[kyear2]

And lacked any semblance of control.

 

[shortpitched713]

Assuming you had a pacer around 6'0 bowling accurately at 80 to 85mph, and you had the option of giving him either 7-8 inches extra in height or 10mph in average extra in pace, what would you you choose to give to make him more effective,assuming same level of accuracy?

Pace, easily, but only if it didn't make him less durable. Generally, bowling express is a surefire way to **** up your body.

 

[Ali TT]

When I hear averaging 95, I think consistently hitting the mid 90's to start a spell.

Don't think anyone can consistently average that over any sustained period of time.

Wood's probably the quickest going at the moment and can average in the 90s for a spell but more like high-80s over a multi-spell innings.

 

[shortpitched713]

Pretty remarkable Marshall has the GOAT status while being the shortest of the ATG quicks

He was the same height as Steyn.

 

[shortpitched713]

In baseball, hasn't it basically stalled about about the same speeds?

Baseball at about 5-6 mph faster. 100 mph bowlers do come around more reguarly, but Chapman was the highest reliably recorded one at 106.

The majority of reliable pitchers can top out in the 90s.