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***Official*** Under-19 World Cup- South Africa 2024

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
Looking unlikely there will be any further play in the SA/Eng match, puddles now on the outfield and rain still falling.

England are actually 35 runs ahead on DLS.
 

mackembhoy

International Regular
Looking unlikely there will be any further play in the SA/Eng match, puddles now on the outfield and rain still falling.

England are actually 35 runs ahead on DLS.
I was just coming on to ask where in DLS scenario are we.

Shame as no real jeopardy with the top 3 going through so winning this way isn't that helpful for the rest of tournament necessarily.
 

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
I was just coming on to ask where in DLS scenario are we.

Shame as no real jeopardy with the top 3 going through so winning this way isn't that helpful for the rest of tournament necessarily.
Actually, these matches mean quite a lot. Yes the top 3 go through, but you carry through the results. So if Eng beat both SA and WI they will be in poll position for the semis. They will be joined in their Super 6 group by Aus/SL/Zim (assuming they all beat Namibia). Top 2 in each Super 6 go into semis.

So you can almost call a couple of semi finalists from these groups.

Edit: Just realised it's even more important as you only play 2 games in the Super 6 stage, against the two teams who did not finish in your same position in the group. So if both Eng and Aus win their groups, they cannot meet in the Super 6. So looks like there's a massive benefit to winning your group before Super 6.
 
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mackembhoy

International Regular
Actually, these matches mean quite a lot. Yes the top 3 go through, but you carry through the results. So if Eng beat both SA and WI they will be in poll position for the semis. They will be joined in their Super 6 group by Aus/SL/Zim (assuming they all beat Namibia). Top 2 in each Super 6 go into semis.

So you can almost call a couple of semi finalists from these groups.
Cheers should have had a proper look instead of spouting rubbish
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
That's one funky Mankad. Seemed like he'd entered his delivery stride so I'm kinda surprised it was given out
 

Immenso

International Vice-Captain
Watching the YouTube highlights.

Some delicious wickets by Rowe in his 5-fer, but most of the rest of them were by braindead batting by the Afghans.( Not that I can see if /what lead up to the crap shots)

While in the second innings. I'd have to say the kiwis were bamboozled for about 7 of the 9 wickets that fell. So I'd say there's a skill gap in Afghans favor, and they totally crapped the bed (early) to lose this.

I think Afghans beat England in the warm-ups, so I'd say it's an upset for nz who are usually mediocre-to-poor at age group level.

NZ have played their entire squad (I think) over the 2 games. Beating Nepal means the pressure was off as guaranteed to make super 6 (really should be called not-that-super 12s in a 16 team tournament)
 

Immenso

International Vice-Captain
The truth. Do you have a theory as to why? Probably $$$, and lack of it.
I think the more you refine the selection criteria, the more a small population becomes a hinderance. But, we are usually still way worse even than that explanation. I mean Windies are next smallest and they have won this comp.

NZC don't spend money on it. They don't arrange bilaterals (unless CEOs son is in team) and get them experienced, particularly in foreign conditions. Shouldn't be too big a deal in SAF, but if tournament had gone ahead in SL as planned these guys would be totally fish out of water.
 

thierry henry

International Coach
While in the second innings. I'd have to say the kiwis were bamboozled for about 7 of the 9 wickets that fell. So I'd say there's a skill gap in Afghans favor, and they totally crapped the bed (early) to lose this.
Yeah this is totally correct. We were very luck to cobble together 92 runs. The Afghanistan attack consisted of multiple spinners who were either "mystery spinners" or at least had a couple of variations (leggie with a wrong un, SLA with a quick arm ball, etc). They all seemed to bowl pretty fast and flat and targeted the stumps and the batsmen never seemed to know which line to play.
 

kevinw

State Captain
Would've helped AFG if their slips could catch - too many runs through third man. Nice 'Mankad' towards the end too (one of the type I don't like - had the bowler released the ball, the batter would still have been in the crease).
 

SteveNZ

Cricketer Of The Year
That's one funky Mankad. Seemed like he'd entered his delivery stride so I'm kinda surprised it was given out
Law 38.3.1.1 now reads: “The instant when the bowler would normally have been expected to release the ball is defined as the moment the bowler’s arm reaches the highest point of his/her normal bowling action in the delivery swing.”

So it is out, he hadn't got to the point of releasing the ball. To be honest, everyone knows the rules now. Batsmen need to get into the habit of watching and leaving when the ball is gone. I still don't love it - and let's face it, bowlers only go to it when they're desperate (if the batsmen aren't taking the piss) - but it's there, and all the spirit of cricket rubbish needs to fade away
 

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