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Football stuff that doesn't deserve its own thread

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
I just finished Pat Nevin’s second autobiography (he split them in two). Obviously I have a vested interest given he’s one of the greatest players I’ve ever seen in the white shirt, but the stuff about his time as chief executive at Motherwell is fascinating for anyone with an interest in football.
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
I just finished Pat Nevin’s second autobiography (he split them in two). Obviously I have a vested interest given he’s one of the greatest players I’ve ever seen in the white shirt, but the stuff about his time as chief executive at Motherwell is fascinating for anyone with an interest in football.
Intelligent fellow, Nevin, and highly articulate, so I'm not surprised it's a good read. I remember him on the front page of the NME circa 1980 due to his love of indie music. Presumably he joined your boys after his time at Everton? I suppose my abiding memory of him there was scoring the only goal of the match in the other semi-final on the same day as Hillsborough.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Intelligent fellow, Nevin, and highly articulate, so I'm not surprised it's a good read. I remember him on the front page of the NME circa 1980 due to his love of indie music. Presumably he joined your boys after his time at Everton? I suppose my abiding memory of him there was scoring the only goal of the match in the other semi-final on the same day as Hillsborough.
Yeah music is a huge part of his life, especially in his Chelsea days. We signed him on loan initially in 92 then stumped up a club record £350k for him in August that year. He was absolutely ridiculous. A joy to watch and walks into any all-time TRFC XI. Should have been playing in the top flight still when we had him I reckon. The side we had in my formative years played better football than both of our Merseyside neighbours at the time. Not to say we were a better side (though we possibly were better than Everton in 93-94 when they were lucky to stay up and we were unlucky to stay down) but under Souness and Kendall respectively they both played fairly pragmatic, ugly football as was the style for many barring Man U and Newcastle at that point. We on the other hand played attacking, passing football. King was probably too committed to the beautiful game if anything, Nevin talks in one chapter as to how the players had to talk him out of a tactic of leaving five men up when defending a corner.

But that’s why Nevin loved it at Tranmere. The rest of my football life was spoiled by those early years really because we never again will have a team close to that good.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
He was always referenced (along with Steve Heighway, Steve Coppell and Mark Falco) as that rarest of creatures, a footballer with a degree, when I were a lad.
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
He was always referenced (along with Steve Heighway, Steve Coppell and Mark Falco) as that rarest of creatures, a footballer with a degree, when I were a lad.
I didn't know about Falco. It was unusual though. I think any footballer with A levels, never mind a degree, was usually referred to as 'Professor' by his team mates.
 

Molehill

Cricketer Of The Year
Nevin often appears on Steve Lamacq's 6 Music show discussing new music.

Christian Burgess who played for Portsmouth between 2016-20 is a current one with a degree. Was studying History at Birmingham when he was spotted by Middlesboro, he completed his degree part time at Teesside. He left Portsmouth for a Belgian League B Club, helped get them promoted and then into Europe. He's bilingual and an interesting fellow to follow on X with some strong political opinions.
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
Steve Heighway's Liverpool contemporary Brian Hall also had a degree. Their team-mates referred to them as 'Big Bamber' and 'Little Bamber' respectively.
 

Uppercut

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Speaking of old football, I was given this lasy week, and it's a great read.
What makes it do good is that Spurling doesn't just repeat the events of the decade. Each chapter is full of quotes from the people that he's writing about, mostly taken from interviews that he'd carried out with them over the last 20+ years.
I read this a while back too and also loved it. You're spot on about the amount of original research that went into it and how it enriches the book. I also thought the thematic structure worked much better than a straight chronology would have.

After reading it I tracked it down the Millwall documentary discussed in one of the chapters, and it didn't disappoint.

 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Yeah, I didn't remember us entering it in those days. Maybe it owed something to the horrible matches that Celtic and Man. Utd had experienced against Argentine opponents only ten years previously. And Trevor Cherry's experience playing for England in Argentina in 1977 wouldn't have convinced anyone that things had changed very much.
Weren't Celtic against Uruguayan opposition? Seem to remember reading about a game they played in Montevideo which ended up with multiple red cards.
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
Weren't Celtic against Uruguayan opposition? Seem to remember reading about a game they played in Montevideo which ended up with multiple red cards.
From memory, the match in Montevideo was a play-off after the two-leg final was tied. I'm pretty sure that Celtic's opponents in 1967 were Argentinian.

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Yeah, Racing Club were from Argentina. Here's wiki's account of the matches. It's all x-rated stuff, but I especially liked the bit about one of the Celtic players who had been sent off staying on the field because the referee was too hopeless to deal with the matter.
 
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Furball

Evil Scotsman
I would imagine that's a pretty good read.
Yeah it was fascinating. It did make me think that as much as I whinge about international football that it's a shame there's no longer proper tours, there's generations of European footballers at this point who have never played in Argentina, which I think is a great shame as it's one of the great footballing nations.

It's 46 years since there's been a World Cup in Argentina, 42 since Spain has hosted a major tournament and 34 since Italy had the privilege, yet FIFA sees fit to host tournaments in Qatar and Saudi Arabia.
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
It's amazing to think that several British clubs toured South America either side of WW1, including the likes of Plymouth and Exeter. The latter even played against the Brazilian national side back in 1914. Unsurprisingly, the locals claimed to be unimpressed with the standard of football from the visitors. The fact that some of our clubs went there makes it even more surprising that our national side wasn't able to compete in the 1930 world cup in Uruguay.

Many years ago, I read a bit about Chelsea's tour of Argentina in 1929. The bit that stuck in my memory was the Chelsea captain going to shake hands with the opposition skipper before the match and promptly being kicked where it hurts most. I've tried to find this online just now, but without success.
 
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