What would a modern player need to beat Bradman?

[PlayerComparisons]

Batting average of 99.95.

Or 6997 runs at an average of 99.94

 

[honestbharani]

Be like Jadeja

 

[subshakerz]

Batsman: Minimum 10000 runs at over avg of 85; 70 in every country.

Bowler: Minimum 400 wickets at below avg of 15; 18 in evey country.

All-rounder: Minimum 7500 runs at over avg of 60; 50 in every country; and minimum 300 wickets at below avg of 20; 25 in every country.

(Or play something like Ajit Agarkar; but we all know that's even tougher, actually impossible heights too reach)

That allrounder criteria is insane. I think a batsman just needs to be 50 averaging bat and sub 25 averaging bowler to qualify.

 

[ataraxia]

Why are there multiple instances of analysis by checklist in this thread.

 

[capt_Luffy]

That allrounder criteria is insane. I think a batsman just needs to be 50 averaging bat and sub 25 averaging bowler to qualify.

Nah, for me that's cutting the mark too close over Sobers and Imran; I probably will still keep Don atop.

 

[subshakerz]

Nah, for me that's cutting the mark too close over Sobers and Imran; I probably will still keep Don atop.

Lol Imran and Sobers weren't that good in their secondary disciplines to be considered double worldclass.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Dravid with the bat + Anderson with the ball

 

[capt_Luffy]

Lol Imran and Sobers weren't that good in their secondary disciplines to be considered double worldclass.

Yeah, but the player you're talking about is worse in his primary skill

 

[Migara]

Batsman: Minimum 10000 runs at over avg of 85; 70 in every country.

Bowler: Minimum 400 wickets at below avg of 15; 18 in evey country.

All-rounder: Minimum 7500 runs at over avg of 60; 50 in every country; and minimum 300 wickets at below avg of 20; 25 in every country.

(Or play something like Ajit Agarkar; but we all know that's even tougher, actually impossible heights too reach)

This is alrteady above Bradman.

 

[capt_Luffy]

This is alrteady above Bradman.

Yeah, I meant either one of those 3, would make a player above Bradman.

 

[subshakerz]

Yeah, but the player you're talking about is worse in his primary skill

Imran and Sobers by their primary skills are already more than half way there to Bradman

Bradman to me is twice the output of any regular worldclass bat or bowler. Not twice the output of a top tier ATG bat or bowler.

 

[Ali TT]

That allrounder criteria is insane. I think a batsman just needs to be 50 averaging bat and sub 25 averaging bowler to qualify.

Quite. To say that say a combination of Joe Root+Jimmy Anderson or Steve Smith+Pat Cummins or Virat Kohli+Ashwin wouldn't be on a par with Bradman, if not his superior, is daft.

 

[Anil]

Be like Jadeja

He is beyond comparison, this discussion is about mere mortals.

 

[Victor Ian]

Average 75+, and 60+ in all conditions as a batsman.

And of course as players Imran and Sobers have already beaten Bradman.

So why is there no 'no Sobers or imran' rule in the drafts?

 

[ataraxia]

So why is there no 'no Sobers or imran' rule in the drafts?

Drafting is based on CW consensus rankings and CW consensus rankings underrate Imran and Sobers.

 

[Prince EWS]

So why is there no 'no Sobers or imran' rule in the drafts?

Migara isn't the Emperor of Drafts. His opinion isn't reflected there.

 

[Coronis]

Migara isn't the Emperor of Drafts. His opinion isn't reflected there.

That would be a nice addition to the resume though.

 

[howitzer]

I think a 15+ year career with 45/20 or 50-55/25 while being a main bowler would do it for me. If Sobers averaged 5 less with the ball i would be very unsure so i don't think it's an enormous gap; just a clear one.

 

[Migara]

So why is there no 'no Sobers or imran' rule in the drafts?

Drafts are based on personal opinions. Just like above.

 

[Kirkut]

While cricket has always given opportunity for players with less standard athletic physiques, I think a 5'8, 20 stone batter would struggle even with their talents.

On a serious note though, even a prime Kohli never quite matched the 1997-1998 Tendulkar, the compactness and the balance in shots.