Such a hurt that Pakistan/India series don't take place anymore..and it's been ages...

[bagapath]

Nah, disagree with this.

Wish the world was always meritorious like you believe it would be.
For Australia, touring Pakistan won't generate as much money as touring England or India.
Even the television revenues won't be on par with the Ashes or an Australia - India series.
So... even if Pakistan and Australia produced a cracker of a series, it will fade away - like the great Sri Lanka - Australia series when Warne and Murali went head to head that produced great cricket, but didn't give birth to a box-office hit rivalry.
There won't be any long lasting hype for this match up.

For any legend to be built up over a sporting rivalry, the two teams should be evenly matched in stature, if not in talent.
That's why India - Pakistan used to be a great match up back in the days.
Why India - Australia works brilliantly now.
Why I predict Afghanistan - Pakistan to be a hot rivalry in the future.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

If Pakistan played good cricket in Australia and won test matches it would absolutely be a series people look forward to. Like Sri Lanka, and unlike India, they suck arse when they travel so nobody cares about it.

 

[bagapath]

I am talking about creating a long lasting (branded) rivalry. That is the point of this thread.

For a marquee series the teams should be evenly matched in spirit. They should have off field history to add to the competition. There should be a lot at stake - money/ fame/ attention. Apart from this if they are evenly matched in talent, they may produce a good series. But that alone won't be enough to build a long lasting brand for their rivalry if the other factors (even match up in spirit/ off field competition/ monies) are not in place.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

You have to define what you mean by a branded rivalry, if you mean something that has value as a commodity then I think you're probably right.

For cricket I would only consider the Ashes to be an actual long lasting rivalry. Everything else kind of fluctuates depending on on-field results.

 

[bagapath]

You have to define what you mean by a branded rivalry, if you mean something that has value as a commodity then I think you're probably right.

Right. That is what I mean.

For cricket I would only consider the Ashes to be an actual long lasting rivalry. Everything else kind of fluctuates depending on on-field results.

First part of it I agree with.
Second part of your statement I want to elaborate.
India Pakistan used to be a branded rivalry - even though the quality of cricket was poor with 90% of the tests ending in tame draws - because of the off field equation between two countries that were similar in their growth arcs. Now that equation has changed. So their rivalry is over.
India Australia is a big deal now for players/ public and the people involved in the business of cricket. IPL, which mixes up nationalities, has taken off a bit of the edge between individual competitors, so there is no "fire" in the rivalry that used to be there between India and Pakistan. otherwise it is a very highly followed series.

Definitely nothing can match the Ashes for history, obviously.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Australia/Pakistan wouldn't become a marquee series just because they were a bit more competitive for a couple tours. It would take more than that. Even Aus/SA isn't a marquee series

 

[Daemon]

New Zealand - Bangladesh is quite hotly contested these days. Two teams on pretty equal footing that have drawn their last two test series against each other.

 

[bagapath]

Australia/Pakistan wouldn't become a marquee series just because they were a bit more competitive for a couple tours. It would take more than that. Even Aus/SA isn't a marquee series

Right. That's my point.
Rivalries are not built only on cricketing merit.
Thank you.

 

[ataraxia]

New Zealand - Bangladesh is quite hotly contested these days. Two teams on pretty equal footing that have drawn their last two test series against each other.

Yeah we are the 4th and 5th best teams around after all

 

[bagapath]

Can the most memorable and forgettable Test series of all time be quantified?

Using the Test Quality Index to select the best games and series in Test history

www.espncricinfo.com

Interesting article.
Draws the conclusion that over the years India versus Pakistan is the statistically most boring test cricket of all time.

 

[howitzer]

Can the most memorable and forgettable Test series of all time be quantified?

Using the Test Quality Index to select the best games and series in Test history

www.espncricinfo.com

Interesting article.
Draws the conclusion that over the years India versus Pakistan is the statistically most boring test cricket of all time.

Don't normally like him, but that is a bit of fun.

 

[subshakerz]

Can the most memorable and forgettable Test series of all time be quantified?

Using the Test Quality Index to select the best games and series in Test history

www.espncricinfo.com

Interesting article.
Draws the conclusion that over the years India versus Pakistan is the statistically most boring test cricket of all time.

I am so grateful to have watched the 99 test series in India. But in hindsight was an outlier, the rest have been dull series. I think curators generally have been too conservative to allow sporting pitches.

 

[bagapath]

Behind the 🎙️ as the winning hit sparked celebrations in the 🇦🇫 camp #cricket #cwc23

Behind the microphone as the winning hit sparked celebrations in the Afghanistan camp in a big win over Pakistan at the Cricket World Cup 2023 🔥#cricket #PA...

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The future of Asian cricket, in my opinion
Pak Vs Afghanistan