***Official*** Pakistan in Australia 2023/24

[TheJediBrah]

Would it have made any difference to the result if Pakistan had won the toss?

I note that Cummins has now won 9 of the last 10 in Aus. I'm not sure it's affecting results, but it certainly doesn't help the touring teams.

lol no

 

[Spark]

Would it have made any difference to the result if Pakistan had won the toss?

I note that Cummins has now won 9 of the last 10 in Aus. I'm not sure it's affecting results, but it certainly doesn't help the touring teams.

Not even a little bit

 

[TheJediBrah]

I reckon you'd have to go back to some of the flatter pitches 3+ seasons ago (the year before the Ashes) to find an Australian pitch where the toss was influential

 

[OverratedSanity]

Pakistan could bat thrice and struggle to beat Australia in Australia. The toss is irrelevant.

 

[Burgey]

Think they’d have lost by an innings tbh.

 

[Qlder]

Apparently Pakistan bowled 2 overs short in the Test and have been docked 2 WTC points and players fined 10% of their match fee

 

[Daemon]

Apparently Pakistan bowled 2 overs short in the Test and have been docked 2 WTC points and players fined 10% of their match fee

So WTC points wise they’d actually be better off not touring. Nice.

 

[Shady Slim]

Apparently Pakistan bowled 2 overs short in the Test and have been docked 2 WTC points and players fined 10% of their match fee

i'm all for wtc points and fines being used as a sanction for egregious breaches of over rates but two short feels a bit stiff

 

[Qlder]

i'm all for wtc points and fines being used as a sanction for egregious breaches of over rates but two short feels a bit stiff

I think giving only 2 short is a bit generous of ICC. Pakistan were 10 overs short by lunch on day 2 and i don't think they were any better in 2nd innings

 

[TheJediBrah]

i'm all for wtc points and fines being used as a sanction

Nah it's ridiculous. Ruins the integrity of the whole competition.

 

[Daemon]

How did that recent clock trial go? I liked the idea as a solution, but the appropriate penealty is still something I struggle with. Has to be something with a severity between a fine (useless) and demerit points (captain copping a ban is too harsh and could be gamed by switching captains on paper).

WTC point deductions are especially harsh.

I think the penalty in ODIs is excellent.

 

[Qlder]

Nah it's ridiculous. Ruins the integrity of the whole competition.

Yep, England have lost 19 points, Australia 10 and Pakistan 2. That's a lot of points to mess up the actual WTC rankings (especially since top of the table India only have 16 points)

 

[Burgey]

Penalty runs at 6 rpo for every over you're short

 

[quincywagstaff]

How did that recent clock trial go? I liked the idea as a solution, but the appropriate penealty is still something I struggle with. Has to be something with a severity between a fine (useless) and demerit points (captain copping a ban is too harsh and could be gamed by switching captains on paper).

WTC point deductions are especially harsh.

I think the penalty in ODIs is excellent.

Yeah, the WC ODI penalty was the best one I've seen; only issue is if a chasing team is inching towards a small total and fielders inside the circle are going to be there anyway.

Can't think of an appropriate one for Test cricket though; maybe something like the batting side being in control of whether a 2nd new ball can be taken but nothing really viable.

 

[Daemon]

Captain removes one piece of clothing for each over short

edit: sorry wrong forum

 

[Silver Silva]

honestly, when it's an england tour, absolutely, **** em, but i just don't get joy out of marcus harris belting sri lanka around the park

We can challenge Australia, weve got nothing to lose and Australia is a team in transition..
Thats just me being optimistic though lol

 

[Daemon]

Australia is one of the most settled teams out there, not sure why you’d say they’re in transition

 

[Victor Ian]

The bullshit part of over rates is that it penalised the only bowling that is exciting. If you bowl effeminate spin, you should need to get through 135 in a day.

 

[Son Of Coco]

The bull**** part of over rates is that it penalised the only bowling that is exciting. If you bowl effeminate spin, you should need to get through 135 in a day.

Teams should be penalised 1 point for every over of spin they bowl.

 

[TheJediBrah]

The bull**** part of over rates is that it penalised the only bowling that is exciting. If you bowl effeminate spin, you should need to get through 135 in a day.

This is the other **** part about it. Has strong potential to make the cricket worse. 80 overs a day of high quality fast bowling is better than 60 overs + 30 overs of enforced part time finger spin