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Which 4 heads would you put on a cricketing Mount Rushmore?
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TheJediBrah
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IMO Bradman, Warne, Tendulkar are the obvious ones
the 4th one could be Sobers or Imran. I didn't think of Grace he's probably as good as any
the 4th one could be Sobers or Imran. I didn't think of Grace he's probably as good as any
Fuller Pilch
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Or Richard Headlee as Tony Greig would say.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
This face and head is meant for a likeness to be on a mountain.
Throwing in a few more names.
Spofforth. A revolutionary. First genuine overarm bowler and as undisputed best of his time as any. Immediate challenge to the English ensured viability of international cricket from the start.
Herbie Taylor. Great against Barnes on matting. A more positive and attractive player than dour Mitchell and Nourse.
George Challenor. Founder of the Barbadian school of batting. CLR James: The history of West Indian maturity is unintelligible unless it begins with the batting of George Challenor.
CK Nayudu. Ranji's influence came from afar. The assertive Nayudu was first Indian to challenge the English on home soil. 122 in Bombay in 1918. 128 in an innings victory over “Europeans” two years later. 135 against the same opponents in 1924. Then a seminal 153 in 100 minutes with 11 sixes against an MCC attack featuring Tate, Geary, Mercer and Astill. An innings that inspired a generation.
Fazal Mahmood. Picked to tour Australia with India in 1947-48 but stayed behind due to Partition concerns. The matchwinner in each of Pakistan's first Test victories against India (12-94), England (12-99), Australia (13-114) and West Indies (8-118).
John Reid. Batsman, bowler in two styles, wicket-keeper, captain.
Mahadevan Sathasivam. The first outstanding Sri Lankan batsman? Greatly impressed Worrell when making 96 out of 153 against a Commonwealth XI in Colombo in 1950. Got a hundred against the full Indian team five years earlier.
Spofforth. A revolutionary. First genuine overarm bowler and as undisputed best of his time as any. Immediate challenge to the English ensured viability of international cricket from the start.
Herbie Taylor. Great against Barnes on matting. A more positive and attractive player than dour Mitchell and Nourse.
George Challenor. Founder of the Barbadian school of batting. CLR James: The history of West Indian maturity is unintelligible unless it begins with the batting of George Challenor.
CK Nayudu. Ranji's influence came from afar. The assertive Nayudu was first Indian to challenge the English on home soil. 122 in Bombay in 1918. 128 in an innings victory over “Europeans” two years later. 135 against the same opponents in 1924. Then a seminal 153 in 100 minutes with 11 sixes against an MCC attack featuring Tate, Geary, Mercer and Astill. An innings that inspired a generation.
Fazal Mahmood. Picked to tour Australia with India in 1947-48 but stayed behind due to Partition concerns. The matchwinner in each of Pakistan's first Test victories against India (12-94), England (12-99), Australia (13-114) and West Indies (8-118).
John Reid. Batsman, bowler in two styles, wicket-keeper, captain.
Mahadevan Sathasivam. The first outstanding Sri Lankan batsman? Greatly impressed Worrell when making 96 out of 153 against a Commonwealth XI in Colombo in 1950. Got a hundred against the full Indian team five years earlier.
Daemon
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Would any of them even make a mt rushmore in their own countries
Burgey
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That's not a naturally occurring human chin. Would be nervous when WADA turned up.
This face and head is meant for a likeness to be on a mountain.
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It’s not. He’s a human lego.
Spofforth, Fazal and Reid would be genuine candidates in their own countries, Spofforth also overall. The other early influencers would face more local competition.
Fuller Pilch
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Agree.
Without Spofforth's performance and the subsequent obituary for English cricket, the Ashes would not exist.
Fazal led the way to Imran, the 2 Ws, and the other quicks for which Pakistan is most famous.
Finally, Reid was NZ cricket for a long time and had he come from a stronger nation could've been counted amongst the greatest ever.
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Neil Young
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Reid would make the NZ version if I were doing it.
Reid, Crowe, Hadlee...erm...Nicholls?
h_hurricane
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Cairns
Lance or Chris might be worthy alone but together they are definitely worth a statue.
Both of them smashed the Aussies.
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bagapath
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Went with the idea of four of the biggest names cricket has seen...
Purely as cricketers Richards and Warne and Imran deserve to be there.
As personalities to have taken the game beyond the playing field Worrell and Benaud deserve a shout.
For the sake of romance Trumper and Miller and Lillee and Marshall could be there as well.
I finally settled for the four names that made the game what it is today
Grace for making cricket a household name. (1880s/ 1890s)
Bradman for defining excellence forever. (1920s/1930s/1940s)
Sobers for playing the game to its fullest glory. (1950s/1960s/1970s)
Tendulkar for capturing the imagination of billions of fans and playing a major hand in shifting the power base of the game. (1980s/1990s/2000s/2010s)
Bradman and Sobers are peerless in their mastery.
Grace and Tendulkar have many other competitors as cricketers.
Even in performing their roles in the history of the game, they probably were just the right people in the right place at the right time.
But it is enough that they were the right people. So they belong there.
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kyear2
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There have been two great indomitable phenomenons in the history of the game, two equally indomitable personalities whose talents or flair haven't been seen before or since and then there's the two near indisputable greatest players in the history of the game.
1. The Don and the Quartet
2. Sobers & Warne
3. The Don and Sir Garry
There was a vid that someone shared in a YouTube thread, from '81. In it the British were basically narrating on what it was like to face that attack, and unless one experienced it, it was hard to understand how terrifying and imposing they were. They captivated and dominated world cricket like only the Don before and possibly none after. They changed the game, the rules, the notion of how the game could be played or won.
The Don speaks for himself and no explanation is necessary. For that era he was cricket.
Sobers as noted by Bradman, Miller, Chappell and others, was the greatest cricketer ever. Even if one doesn't conform to that ideology, there's little doubt he's second. A top 5 batsman, an top tier slip fielder and the most versatile bowler in the history of the game and possibly the best 4th or 5th option there have been. We can all argue about the Wisden voting and who got 10, 15 or 30 votes, but Bradman got a hundred and Sobers got 90. When Cricinfo made their collaborative all time team, they both were unanimous selections. That's pretty indisputable.
Shane Warne and Glenn McGrath were part of probably the greatest and definitely the winningest team of all time. That's one thing that's missing in these cricketing conversations, the winners, the ones who dominated. On their own they are also worthy candidates, Warne also being a unanimous selections to the Cricinfo team and McGrath being at worse a top 3 fast bowler of all time.
Yes there are others who are worthy
Imran, Tendulkar, Hobbs, Murali, and Marshall (once separated). Viv and McGrath are in there as well. But has anyone had a grater impact on the modern game than...
Don Bradman
Garry Sobers
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1. The Don and the Quartet
2. Sobers & Warne
3. The Don and Sir Garry
There was a vid that someone shared in a YouTube thread, from '81. In it the British were basically narrating on what it was like to face that attack, and unless one experienced it, it was hard to understand how terrifying and imposing they were. They captivated and dominated world cricket like only the Don before and possibly none after. They changed the game, the rules, the notion of how the game could be played or won.
The Don speaks for himself and no explanation is necessary. For that era he was cricket.
Sobers as noted by Bradman, Miller, Chappell and others, was the greatest cricketer ever. Even if one doesn't conform to that ideology, there's little doubt he's second. A top 5 batsman, an top tier slip fielder and the most versatile bowler in the history of the game and possibly the best 4th or 5th option there have been. We can all argue about the Wisden voting and who got 10, 15 or 30 votes, but Bradman got a hundred and Sobers got 90. When Cricinfo made their collaborative all time team, they both were unanimous selections. That's pretty indisputable.
Shane Warne and Glenn McGrath were part of probably the greatest and definitely the winningest team of all time. That's one thing that's missing in these cricketing conversations, the winners, the ones who dominated. On their own they are also worthy candidates, Warne also being a unanimous selections to the Cricinfo team and McGrath being at worse a top 3 fast bowler of all time.
Yes there are others who are worthy
Imran, Tendulkar, Hobbs, Murali, and Marshall (once separated). Viv and McGrath are in there as well. But has anyone had a grater impact on the modern game than...
Don Bradman
Garry Sobers
The 4 horse men of the apocalypse
McWarne
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Bit harsh to exclude grace, innit? He was a global superstar who pretty much invented modern batting and once scored more centuries then the rest of england combined in a summer. Doesn't get much better than that.
Fuller Pilch
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John Wisden and Simon King (founder of cricinfo) deserve a mention.
Predictable but perfect.
Yeah Grace and Bradman are automatic selections.