Victor Ian
International Coach
Nah. Easy. Saves cleaning up the alluvial fanGrace’s beard would be hard to sculpt on monumental scale.
Nah. Easy. Saves cleaning up the alluvial fanGrace’s beard would be hard to sculpt on monumental scale.
If they were "slaveholder glorifying" they'd hardly have Lincoln's head on Mt Rushmore ( Abe was the Great Emancipator), nor that of Teddy Roosevelt.
Dudes, I'm not going to do your research for you.Despite not being an American history buff this was my first thought too…
Why would I bother googling something I don’t have an interest in when someone can tell me the something I don’t want to know without me putting in effort.Dudes, I'm not going to do your research for you.
Edit: **** it, but anyway, learn to Google.
Stone Heroes North and South: The Connection between Mount Rushmore and Stone Mountain — Civil Discourse
One displays the heroes of the Confederacy—Robert E. Lee, Jefferson Davis, and Thomas J. “Stonewall” Jackson—all on horseback riding across the wide gray canvas that is Stone Mountain near Atlanta, Georgia. The other features four bust-style depictions of famous American presidents—Georgecivildiscourse-historyblog.com
"The Stone Mountain project was conceived in the 1910s, when a southerner was elected to the presidency, the nation’s capital was legally segregated, and the film Birth of a Nation was highly popular. The original idea for Stone Mountain, devised by Atlanta attorney William Terrell and supported by leader of the United Daughters of the Confederacy’s (UDC) Atlanta chapter Caroline Plane, was a bust of Robert E. Lee carved into the side of Stone Mountain. They approached Borglum with their idea, partially because of his renown for his previous work, but also because, despite being a “northerner,” he seemed sympathetic to their cause."
.Gutzon Borglum - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
While it has been claimed that Borglum was a member of the Ku Klux Klan,[24] an article in the Smithsonian Magazine denies that there is proof that he officially joined the KKK.[25] That said, he became "deeply involved in Klan politics", attending Klan rallies and serving on Klan committees.
Because sometimes trolls can better themselves too.Why would I bother googling something I don’t have an interest in when someone can tell me the something I don’t want to know without me putting in effort.
okDudes, I'm not going to do your research for you.
Edit: **** it, but anyway, learn to Google.
Stone Heroes North and South: The Connection between Mount Rushmore and Stone Mountain — Civil Discourse
One displays the heroes of the Confederacy—Robert E. Lee, Jefferson Davis, and Thomas J. “Stonewall” Jackson—all on horseback riding across the wide gray canvas that is Stone Mountain near Atlanta, Georgia. The other features four bust-style depictions of famous American presidents—Georgecivildiscourse-historyblog.com
"The Stone Mountain project was conceived in the 1910s, when a southerner was elected to the presidency, the nation’s capital was legally segregated, and the film Birth of a Nation was highly popular. The original idea for Stone Mountain, devised by Atlanta attorney William Terrell and supported by leader of the United Daughters of the Confederacy’s (UDC) Atlanta chapter Caroline Plane, was a bust of Robert E. Lee carved into the side of Stone Mountain. They approached Borglum with their idea, partially because of his renown for his previous work, but also because, despite being a “northerner,” he seemed sympathetic to their cause."
.Gutzon Borglum - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
While it has been claimed that Borglum was a member of the Ku Klux Klan,[24] an article in the Smithsonian Magazine denies that there is proof that he officially joined the KKK.[25] That said, he became "deeply involved in Klan politics", attending Klan rallies and serving on Klan committees.
Why are you presuming?Why are all suggestions male cricketers btw. At least 2 should be women
Karen Rolton & Elise PerryBradman
Sobers
Belinda Clarke and Elise Perry?
I don't even know who's considered ATG and stuff like that with women cricketers
Classic mistakepeople are taking TJB seriously.
I know RHF was something of a pioneer for the women's game over here, but her apologism for apartheid-era SA should exclude her from this sort of thing.Betty Wilson and Rachel Heyhoe-Flint
Considered Immy vey closely. I went for the original icon [WG], the statistical GOAT [DB], the AR GOAT [Sobers] and the 4th slot was a pick'em.how the heck does Warne get in ahead of Imran? Except maybe Australia, Imran was far more iconic everywhere.
That was the whole point of my post. Warne has nowhere near the historical gravitas of Imran.Considered Immy vey closely. I went for the original icon [WG], the staridtical GOAT [DB], the AR GOAT [Sobers] and the 4th slot was a pick'em.
Warne revived an art. Imran is the better cricketer but Warne has the historical gravitas.
The best 4 cricketers ever are:This is what happens when we venture outside of just choosing the best 4. How can one measure who was more iconic, how do we even define iconic.
Unless we're going straight popularity contest. And for the record, during his day, Garry defined iconic, popular, in demand. He was sought out for every domestic competition. The world record, the 6 sixes, the best all round cricketers ever... He drank, he partied, he literally did it all.
No gripe with it being Immy.That was the whole point of my post. Warne has nowhere near the historical gravitas of Imran.
Gilchrist?The best 4 cricketers ever are:
BRADMAN
SOBERS
IMRAN
MILLER
They add more to a side than any other player.
Best in his category but a true AR adds more I'd think. But Gilly is deffo a legit shout.Gilchrist?
Quite ****ing right too.No gripe with it being Jimmy.