HouHsiaoHsien
International Debutant
Yep. Pollock is one of the great ODI bowlers and a decent lower order bat.
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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread
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Flem274*
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Opening with Crowe feels so wrong lol
I think he makes my seconds now along with Conway. Idk, I might be conservative. It is tricky to compare because the game has changed and that WC in particular was unacceptably easy for batting. Mitchell's success in other formats and general big dick energy make his case as much as his current record imo.
Conway
Guptill
Fleming (c)
Mitchell
Styris
Elliott
Parore (wk)
Santner
Mills
Henry
Morrison
Lol the difference between those quicks and challenging for the first team is the shithouse death bowling. That team needs peak Ferguson or perhaps even current Adam Milne but Morrison was the slightly better quick overall. How were the early era guys like Chats, Lance Cairns and Sneddon at the death? I've sort of assumed Mills and Henry are the much more modern and talented versions of them. Then there's even earlier bowlers like Taylor, Dayle Hadlee and Collinge but that's from the dawn of ODIs.
The middle order in this team is a who's who of NZ World Cup BDE.
kyear2
International Coach
The joy of the past
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Sunil1z
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I will have only 1 change . Replace Starc with Klusener. Klusener, Richards and Sachin to be combined 5th bowler .
capt_Luffy
International Captain
Starc is the highest wicket taker of two back to back World Cups; even Player of the Tournament once. And while this World Cup wasn't particularly great for him, he was instrumental in the most important Aussie victories. So with a heavy heart, if you must have to remove a bowler for Klusner; it has to be Akram....
shortpitched713
International Captain
Quit the faux hand wringing, and just honestly say you would gleefully exclude Wasim Akram.
capt_Luffy
International Captain
Nope. I like Wasim Akram.
4 number threes, including Sanga batting at 6(!!), followed by 5 tail enders. It's a list of highest run scorers and highest wicket takers with some very minor tweaks.
TheJediBrah
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Leaving Gilchrist put is a travesty given his record in finals. Would also replace Warne with Hogg or Klusener.
Pretty terrible team balance too tbh Wasim Akram at 7? Lol
TheJediBrah
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Warne was great in 1 World Cup. Hogg helped win 2 and is a better bat and way better fielder than Warne. Warne was a liability in the field after the first 10 overs.
Hogg being in the ring with some combination of Symonds, Ponting and Clarke is an underrated part of what made that team as good as they were
And I'm for from a Warne hater. IMO he's one of the top 3 cricketers of all time
Hogg being in the ring with some combination of Symonds, Ponting and Clarke is an underrated part of what made that team as good as they were
And I'm for from a Warne hater. IMO he's one of the top 3 cricketers of all time
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Btw history will tell you exactly what happens if you pick Warne for your ATG world cup team to represent the planet. He tests positive for Clenbuterol and gets banned right before the tournament and you have to play Hogg anyway
Victor Ian
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Doesn't history also say that in 3 finals he played, he received 3 MOMs? Kind of flies in the face of your Gilchrist position.
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Guess I didn't see those games. How did he do in the 96 final though
Victor Ian
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yeah - I forgot the 96 final. So the piece of **** only MOM's in 3/4 WC finals. Not good enough.
How did McGrath do?
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Look I'm not anti Warne so much as I'm pro Hogg, and pro-Klusener. Even Symonds maybe (as 5th bowler obviously)
Victor Ian
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I'm actually partial to Hogg myself. It is quite amazing that you can make a successful case for him over Warne.