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***Official***Semi-Final #1- India vs New Zealand - November 15th - Wankhede, Mumbai (D/N)

Ashes81

State Vice-Captain
Mixed feelings about this one.

India deserve to win the WC - they've been the best team by a distance.

However, I've always liked the Kiwis, they play the game in the right way and for such a small country punch well above their weight. Plus they deserve to win a WC.

But my over-riding wish is that Australia don't win. After winning the test championship and fluking a draw in the Ashes, it would be more than I could stand if they win this WC.

India would beat the Aussies in the final but NZ wouldn't so I'm going for India. 😆
 

Sunil1z

International Regular
Mixed feelings about this one.

India deserve to win the WC - they've been the best team by a distance.

However, I've always liked the Kiwis, they play the game in the right way and for such a small country punch well above their weight. Plus they deserve to win a WC.

But my over-riding wish is that Australia don't win. After winning the test championship and fluking a draw in the Ashes, it would be more than I could stand if they win this WC.

India would beat the Aussies in the final but NZ wouldn't so I'm going for India. 😆
Thanks.🙏
Atleast there is a neutral fan supporting IND.
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Interesting stat that, also read into it as further proof that bowlers and strong bowling units gain a lot more importance when it comes to knockouts. It’s quite uncanny how any weak spots in the batting tend to get exposed in KO games (thinking South Africa in the 2011 QF, NZ in the 2015 final, India in the 2019 semifinal).
SA didn't really have any notable weak spots in their batting 2011. They had Kallis, Amla, AB and Faf in their top 6. Their real problem was their inexperience in Bangladeshi conditions. They picked the standard SA attack of 3 seamers, Tahir and Kallis, and didn't realise that NZ was on track for a massive score for the conditions until it was too late. NZ on the other hand picked Vettori, NcCullum and Woodcock and strangled the life out of SA as soon as the fielding restrictions came off. NZ won that game 6 months before it happened during their 0-5 thrashing v Bangladesh.
 

Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
SA didn't really have any notable weak spots in their batting 2011. They had Kallis, Amla, AB and Faf in their top 6. Their real problem was their inexperience in Bangladeshi conditions. They picked the standard SA attack of 3 seamers, Tahir and Kallis, and didn't realise that NZ was on track for a massive score for the conditions until it was too late. NZ on the other hand picked Vettori, NcCullum and Woodcock and strangled the life out of SA as soon as the fielding restrictions came off. NZ won that game 6 months before it happened during their 0-5 thrashing v Bangladesh.
Nah, they picked way too many bowlers and heaps of spinners - had a really, really long tail. Only 2 seamers + Kallis (had Johan Botha at 7 and Robin Petersen at 8).

Just checking the scorecard now - great top 4 (Amla, Smith, Kallis, AB who was keeping) flaky JPD at 5, and an inexperienced Faf at 6.
Needed another bat, seam bowling allrounder, or keeper (this was between Boucher and QDK) at 7 to add strength at 7. Probably a specialist bat with Duminy at 7 would've worked.
 
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Moss

International Captain
Nah, they picked way too many bowlers and heaps of spinners - had a really, really long tail. Only 2 seamers + Kallis (had Johan Botha at 7 and Robin Petersen at 8).

Just checking the scorecard now - great top 4 (Amla, Smith, Kallis, AB who was keeping) flaky JPD at 5, and an inexperienced Faf at 6.
Needed another bat, seam bowling allrounder, or keeper (this was between Boucher and QDK) at 7 to add strength at 7. Probably a specialist bat with Duminy at 7 would've worked.
Yeah this is exactly what I meant - Botha at 7 and Pietersen at 8 was optimistic. I can’t recall the reasons for Boucher being out of favour (though ABD as keeper-bat must have been too good a combination to ignore),but they went into the world cup with a clear achilles heel here. Ryder played one of NZ’s best knocks in a WC knockout in that game, too bad his international career went off the rails soon after.
 

Kenneth Viljoen

International Regular
SA didn't really have any notable weak spots in their batting 2011. They had Kallis, Amla, AB and Faf in their top 6. Their real problem was their inexperience in Bangladeshi conditions. They picked the standard SA attack of 3 seamers, Tahir and Kallis, and didn't realise that NZ was on track for a massive score for the conditions until it was too late. NZ on the other hand picked Vettori, NcCullum and Woodcock and strangled the life out of SA as soon as the fielding restrictions came off. NZ won that game 6 months before it happened during their 0-5 thrashing v Bangladesh.
That's not true at all , we played 4 spinners vs New Zealand in 2011 WC , Left arm spinner Robin Peterson (Who had a very good WC), Off spinners JP Duminy and Johan Botha , and the legspinner Tahir ..
We didn't play three standard seamers , our only specialist quicks were Morne Morkel and Dale Steyn with Kallis as third seamer.

We restricted New Zealand to 221/8 not massive by any means and was pretty damn good considering NZ were at one point 150/3 ..

Our batters cost us that game big time , Amla and Smith got out in the softest way possible to some pretty innocuous balls , then Kallis and AB put on a great partnership, we were like 100/2 and cruising and then again a flurry of shockingly bad shot selection combined with accurate bowling led to our demise . The nail in the coffin was that suicidal run out of AB De Villiers . That was a classic choke from SA, we handed that game to NZ on a platter.
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member

Lol. Not surprised that India are so terrified of the might of NZ Cricket that they're stooping to influence what's supposed to be an independent pitch curation process. Mentally, it's game over. NZ will win by 500 runs.
 

The Hutt Rec

International Vice-Captain
I don’t get the request, NZ are quite good on slow low pitches and handle spin better than a lot of countries. This turns it into a bit of a lottery. If it’s a run fest I think that’s a big advantage to India, their pace attack has been impossible to score big against all tournament.
 

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