McGrath/Tendulkar or Imran/Kallis

[subshakerz]

Following from Kyear2s thread, which is a better duo to have assuming you are a mid level team?

 

[Adorable Asshole]

Should have included a poll. Plus it should be in playerscomparison section.

 

[Slifer]

I'm going with the two all rounders.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Harder than the version with Bradman. I think I'd take Kallis/Imran.

 

[subshakerz]

Should have included a poll. Plus it should be in playerscomparison section.

Done.

 

[Anil]

McGrath/Tendulkar

 

[TheJediBrah]

McGrath/Tendulkar

this easily

 

[Red]

McGrath and Tendulkar are probably the guys in the modern era with the most consistent success against everyone, everywhere. I’d go with that.

 

[Slifer]

Imran the bowler was consistent everywhere as well.

 

[ankitj]

Imran + Kallis. It's a no brainer.

 

[subshakerz]

Funny how both sides are so sure.

 

[Prince EWS]

Funny how both sides are so sure.

I even voted for Sobers + Imran in the other poll so it'd be silly for me to be not sure here.

But this is a good thread for that reason. Gets to the crux of a lot of a debates without actually needing to get into seventeen layers of weeds to get to them.

 

[ankitj]

Funny how both sides are so sure.

McGrath's batting and Tendulkar's bowling - What good are they.

I'm thinking of a 2 player side with 9 fielders. If we add riders around rest of the team composition, it becomes complicated.

 

[Jumno]

McGrath and tendulkar

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Imran + Kallis for sure

Gives so many options - can bat deep, play 2 (or even 3) spinners if needed in a 6-man attack etc.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Funny how both sides are so sure.

IMO, it's because of looking at it in a different way.

The Imran/Kallis crowd are looking at theoretical cumulative averages and concluding they come out on top

In practice though the McGrath/Tendulkar will get better results and win more games of cricket. McGrath factor alone makes the difference, with his record at getting out the best batsmen.

Also there is the highly erroneous assumption that I think a lot of people are coming to based on career averages, that Kallis & Sachin are approxmately equal in batting, and that McGrath & Imran are in bowling.

 

[ataraxia]

Also there is the highly erroneous assumption that I think a lot of people are coming to based on career averages, that Kallis & Sachin are approxmately equal in batting, and that McGrath & Imran are in bowling.

How can one be more incorrect?

 

[subshakerz]

IMO, it's because of looking at it in a different way.

The Imran/Kallis crowd are looking at theoretical cumulative averages and concluding they come out on top

In practice though the McGrath/Tendulkar will get better results and win more games of cricket. McGrath factor alone makes the difference, with his record at getting out the best batsmen.

Also there is the highly erroneous assumption that I think a lot of people are coming to based on career averages, that Kallis & Sachin are approxmately equal in batting, and that McGrath & Imran are in bowling.

Depends again on the team.

A weak team would prefer the specialists to shore up their batting and bowling first IMO whereas a strong team who already have their bases covered would prefer the all-rounders to enhance the team options.

I don't think the gap between Imran and McGrath as bowlers is that significant, in fact Imran will win you certain matches that McGrath won't, but Tendulkar and Kallis is a serious gap in quality.

I think overall though, I lean towards McGrath and Tendulkar.

 

[ataraxia]

Depends again on the team.

A weak team would prefer the specialists to shore up their batting and bowling first IMO whereas a strong team who already have their bases covered would prefer the all-rounders to enhance the team options.

I think my question is answered.

 

[subshakerz]

Actually, on second thought, I think I would need to see the makeup of the weak team too since I can think of lineups where Kallis and Imran would be more valuable, especially if you don't have any part-time bowlers. Overall, I think I will switch to them.