Which Asian all time xi is the strongest?

[Coronis]

Wtf you talking? about Vaas and Malinga were better exponent of reverse swing than Waqar or Wasim. If anything they are the ones who are benefit the most from ball tampering.

If they were already so good would the sandpaper make as big a difference?

 

[subshakerz]

Wtf you talking? about Vaas and Malinga were better exponent of reverse swing than Waqar or Wasim. If anything they are the ones who are benefit the most from ball tampering.

That's funny because Wasim taught reverse swing to Vaas.

 

[Silver Silva]

Yeah, last place

No team is unbeatable.

 

[Adorable Asshole]

That's funny because Wasim taught reverse swing to Vaas.

Won't be the first time when the protégé has outdone the master.

 

[Coronis]

No team is unbeatable.

Except the Invincibles.

 

[Migara]

Would it really have helped them though?

Vaas got reverse swing at 130k. With a bit of help from sand paper, he would have boomeranged it.

 

[Jumno]

I'd have Qadir over saqlain

 

[Migara]

That's funny because Wasim taught reverse swing to Vaas.

Urban myth. Wasim refused to reach it to Vaas. Vaas got his own method for it. It is very obvious with actions as well. Vaas gets it with a high arm at 130k. Not slingling at 145k. Since then, barring Malinga, all SL pacers get reverse swing with a different release to Pakistanis. I think Brett Schultz must have been the one to work this out first, and eventually most of great fast bowlers worked it out to bowl reverse swing with high arms. Some of course worked out sandpapering the ball was the way. (and Murray mints too)

 

[Silver Silva]

Vaas got reverse swing at 130k. With a bit of help from sand paper, he would have boomeranged it.

In saying that, I've never seen anyone swing the ball more than teenager Anwar Ali in the U19 final vs India ..Don't need pace if you can move the ball like this

 

[Migara]

In saying that, I've never seen anyone swing the ball more than teenager Anwar Ali in the U19 final vs India ..Don't need pace if you can move the ball like this

This is new ball.

Shayne O' Connor, Bryan Strang, Cameron Cuffy, John Rennie all have boomeranged in swingers to right handers. Connor and Cuffy were particularly pacy too.

 

[Migara]

@Silver Silva - O' Connor

 

[Silver Silva]

@Silver Silva - O' Connor

Some great footage here

 

[Migara]

Cuffy

There was a spell he bowled against SL A in SL some time back, where Atapattu was beaten through the gate to find the ball missing legstump.

 

[subshakerz]

Won't be the first time when the protégé has outdone the master.

Vaas himself would laugh at that statement.

 

[subshakerz]

Urban myth. Wasim refused to reach it to Vaas. Vaas got his own method for it. It is very obvious with actions as well. Vaas gets it with a high arm at 130k. Not slingling at 145k. Since then, barring Malinga, all SL pacers get reverse swing with a different release to Pakistanis. I think Brett Schultz must have been the one to work this out first, and eventually most of great fast bowlers worked it out to bowl reverse swing with high arms. Some of course worked out sandpapering the ball was the way. (and Murray mints too)

Where is your source?

Vaas pretty much copied blatantly Wasim's entire hidden grip style when he reversed it.

Anyways, Wasim reversed it at least a yard faster than Vaas and speed is what makes reverse extra deadly.

 

[Migara]

Where is your source?

Vaas pretty much copied blatantly Wasim's entire hidden grip style when he reversed it.

Anyways, Wasim reversed it at least a yard faster than Vaas and speed is what makes reverse extra deadly.

Vaas in may local interviews have said this, that he had to learn on his own.

Wasim once slowed down could not get the reverse swing, while Vaas did it at 125k even in late in his career says that the way they achieved was different.

Yes I agree that reverse at pace is more effective. Vaas mixed reverse swing with, classical swing, contrast swing and cutters to work batsmen up, rather than a single weapon to blasting them out.

 

[subshakerz]

Vaas in may local interviews have said this, that he had to learn on his own.

Wasim once slowed down could not get the reverse swing, while Vaas did it at 125k even in late in his career says that the way they achieved was different.

Yes I agree that reverse at pace is more effective. Vaas mixed reverse swing with, classical swing, contrast swing and cutters to work batsmen up, rather than a single weapon to blasting them out.

Wasim pretty much could reverse it his entire career and I would reckon even late career he was faster than Vaas. You also concede that Vaas copied hiding the grip with his right hand before delivery straight from Wasim when reversing.

This is him towards his career end. You are kidding yourself if you think Vaas is in the same league as a reverser.

 

[Migara]

Wasim pretty much could reverse it his entire career and I would reckon even late career he was faster than Vaas. You also concede that Vaas copied hiding the grip with his right hand before delivery straight from Wasim when reversing.

This is him towards his career end. You are kidding yourself if you think Vaas is in the same league as a reverser.

I think you are bringing a straw man argument. The argument was Vaas developed his own way of reversing since Wasim did not give the art. As a result Vaas got reverse swing at 10-15k less than Wasim. Instead you are arguing on the straw man point than Wasim was better than Vaas. Intellectually dishonest if I am to be mild about it. Grow up and bring the steel man argument mate.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Vaas is probably the best reverse swinger to play the game

 

[TheJediBrah]

IMO Vaas was even better when he bowled mostly cutters later in his career, especially on the wickets he mostly played on

His new-ball swing bowling was decent but mostly feasted on the likes of Bangladesh