thundaboult
International Debutant
Clarkson over Allen and guptill in t20. Conway and seifert/phillips can open anyhow. Phillips comes in to face the new ball most of the times anyways.
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*Official* New Zealand tour of UAE and England 2023
- Thread starter G. S. Kohli
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Neil Young
State Vice-Captain
Allen looks a million bucks at list A level. Means nothing.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Far better to open with Mitchell, Ravindra, or even Foxcroft imo than pick Guptill for the World Cup. Even Seifert.
Skyliner
International 12th Man
What a weak-gutted capitulation from New Zealand. But if you are losing T20 matches to the UAE, how on earth can you compete with England in their own back yard? A fit-again KW will at least add a veneer of international class to the current NZ dog and pony show…can’t believe the merkins who want him dropped from the T20 side.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
I’m English though mate
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Unfortunately Warren Lees was scapegoated for leaving the SL tour after bomb blasts. He was doing a great job. Then Howarth had not enough discipline and Glenn Turner had too much. It was only when Rixon came in that things turned around.
Neil Young
State Vice-Captain
About right. The Crowe/Rutherford wars didn't help, and then the odd appointment of Germon. Rixon and Fleming turned things around.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
There's no room for Kane in a properly selected full strength NZ T20 side. It would improve the captaincy though.
Hopefully Southee is "rested" for the last 2 T20s and Santner given the captaincy.
Molehill
International Captain
could give them Brook for the ODI’s!!Ca't we give them a few players, just to make it competitive. this isn't fun
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Carse is upper thigh.
ashley bach
Cricketer Of The Year
What a woeful state of mind the Black caps appear to be in at the moment.
Howsie
International Captain
If you’re after a laugh this morning, re-watch Tim Southee’s post match interview where he says we have a young team and they will learn from this 
One guy 25 and under, another 29 (with plenty of international experience) And then Seifert at 28 and Phillips at 26 who have played over 100 games between them.
The 7 other players, all over 30. Has Gary Stead ingrained this team so badly with his boring, dads army approach that the team actually thinks having more than one guy under 30 constitutes being a young team?
One guy 25 and under, another 29 (with plenty of international experience) And then Seifert at 28 and Phillips at 26 who have played over 100 games between them.
The 7 other players, all over 30. Has Gary Stead ingrained this team so badly with his boring, dads army approach that the team actually thinks having more than one guy under 30 constitutes being a young team?
Neil Young
State Vice-Captain
Yes, laughable. But the alternative, although true, doesn't make for a great soundbite if you want to keep the captaincy: 'poor selection policy and zero vision over a number of years dictates we're more than a bit sh*t at the moment'.If you’re after a laugh this morning, re-watch Tim Southee’s post match interview where he says we have a young team and they will learn from this
One guy 25 and under, another 29 (with plenty of international experience) And then Seifert at 28 and Phillips at 26 who have played over 100 games between them.
The 7 other players, all over 30. Has Gary Stead ingrained this team so badly with his boring, dads army approach that the team actually thinks having more than one guy under 30 constitutes being a young team?
thierry henry
International Coach
I know Seifert made a few but Allen and Seifert just flat out can’t play.
wellAlbidarned
International Coach
Seifert I agree, he should be in his prime and doesn't seem to cut the mustard against international bowling. Allen definitely has the raw materials but the timing is right for a dropping - needs to figure out a gameplan a bit more targetted than "smash everyone all the time".
thierry henry
International Coach
How does he have the ‘raw materials’ though? Feels like the equivalent of saying a long drive champion has the ‘raw materials’ to be a top golfer. Allen can bosh a 6 but when has he shown the skills to actually be a good batsman? Being able to select and execute the correct shot to the ball coming at you is like the #1 raw material of batting and I don’t see Allen having it.
thierry henry
International Coach
I’m probably too harsh on Allen tbh, just hard to resist bagging the selection of a batsman who seems to have had no onus put on him to actually score runs at any stage of his career.