I like Miandad because of my own bias. I will admit it. He was a leader (almost as great as Imran in that respect), a fighter, and did a lot of not ***y work for Pakistan, and was exactly what we needed complementing the strengths of the team. Although he is also an ATG bat.This is ridiculously stupid. It has nothing much to do with consistency. The reason his average didn't drop below 50 is because he had some high scoring tests in the very beginning of his career and his bad patches came a few tests later, so he had enough of a buffer because of the early big matches.
If you just switched up the order of tests and put his low scoring test matches in the beginning of his career he wouldnt possess this worthless stat despite there being no difference in his consistency.
Yeah the home umpires thing is legit but many great bats have similar home away split.Miandad was a home track bully who played with his legs just as much as his bat, thanks to patriotic home town umpires. He would hardly be given out LBW at home on lower bouncing pitches, whereas away he would get found out..
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His away record against top teams partly reflects his true skill, averaging 33 in West Indies and 38 in Australia, and the lack of hundreds tells a story too.
Yeah he got you good there.Don’t worry he was just making that team as a joke because I dared to call him out on rating Hayden above Tendulkar amongst batsmen he’d seen.
I am truly humbled and ashamed…
Also Younis > Miandad is the dumbest take especially if you have problem with Miandad away record. Younis away record is similar if you take about his runs against Zimbabwe and Bangladesh.Miandad was a home track bully who played with his legs just as much as his bat, thanks to patriotic home town umpires. He would hardly be given out LBW at home on lower bouncing pitches (ideal for LBW), whereas away he would get found out..
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His away record against top teams partly reflects his true skill, averaging 33 in West Indies and 38 in Australia, and the lack of hundreds tells a story too.
So quit your agenda shortpitched! It's been going on for too long now. Miandad is not even fit to tie the shoelaces of true ATG batsmen, especially Tendulkar's. They are a league apart. Even Younis Khan > Miandad.
And you need to cut it about people ignoring Tendulkar's last 2 years, those years are totally included and reflected in his overall stats for all to see, yet he still manages to hold great averages all around despite the slumps! Thats true greatness. Miandad doesn't come close. Any neutral who watched Miandad bat knows his truth and he will get brutally exposed the more you continue with your agenda.
Hard to rate someone who was seldom given out LBW at home. Miandad's career average would be like <48 if neutral umpires existed. So he wouldn't even be in this thread (no atg) while Younis Khan is 'sometimes' rated on par with someone like Dravid.Also Younis > Miandad is the dumbest take especially if you have problem with Miandad away record. Younis away record is similar if you take about his runs against Zimbabwe and Bangladesh.
Sanga not selected in this squad due to HimannV being a selector.CW Meme XI
1. Atherton > Hayden
2. Gambhiring
3. Kallis
4. Head > Wade
5. [removed by Dan]
6. Jadeja
7. Sajid
8. Faulkner on debut
9. Garner for his batting
10. Hoggard > Lillee
11. Murphy opening the bowling
They haven't beaten us in a test series since 2010/11Why do Pak always bash NZ?
Ranji if you're counting Grace. Ken Higgs and Tich Freeman would have to be part of the bowling attack.Hmm - thinking about an XI of players who were ATGs in first class - but either failed at tests/only played limited matches.
Off the top of my head theres blokes like Richards and Procter, Bevan and Ramprakash, hell even WG Grace.
Probs do some research on this after work tonight..
George Hirst - an absolute colossus at FC level, but with a very ordinary Test record.Hmm - thinking about an XI of players who were ATGs in first class - but either failed at tests/only played limited matches.
Off the top of my head theres blokes like Richards and Procter, Bevan and Ramprakash, hell even WG Grace.
Probs do some research on this after work tonight..
Yep, and Jimmy left out because the match is at the Oval.Sanga not selected in this squad due to HimannV being a selector.