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Who is the greatest spin all rounder of all-time?

CricAddict

Cricketer Of The Year
If Sobers is the best spin allrounder, then Sachin is the second best, Viv the third best and so on.
 

Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
It comes down to definitions. Sobers is easily the best allrounder who bowled spin, but he is also the best allrounder who bowled seam (and the best allrounder full stop).

The question is who is the best allrounder who (almost) only bowled spin?
 

ataraxia

International Coach
Probably Sobers, but ignoring him Faulkner closely followed by Jadeja, Noble, Ashwin, Woolley, and Benaud.
 

Xix2565

International Regular
It comes down to definitions. Sobers is easily the best allrounder who bowled spin, but he is also the best allrounder who bowled seam (and the best allrounder full stop).

The question is who is the best allrounder who (almost) only bowled spin?
I mean this is a disservice to Imran lol. And you can't really say he's as good or better than some of the spin ARs here as a spinner.
 

Majestic

U19 Captain
I think Benaud doesn't necessarily fall in all rounder category. Ashwin also sort of debatable.

The true all rounders would be Faulkner, Jadeja, Shakib and Vettori.
 

Majestic

U19 Captain
Then Sobers and Kallis aren't all rounders either.
200+ test wickets. Bowl avg 32-33. Some specialist pacers have full fledged career with average of 32-33.

Benaud has batting avg of 24. No specialist batsman has a full fledged career with average below 30.
 

Qlder

International Debutant
200+ test wickets. Bowl avg 32-33. Some specialist pacers have full fledged career with average of 32-33.

Benaud has batting avg of 24. No specialist batsman has a full fledged career with average below 30.
Richie Benaud is definitely an allrounder

How do you not know about the different "bowling allrounder" and "batting allrounder" classifications?

Using your logic Richard Hadlee was not an allrounder lol
 
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Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
I mean this is a disservice to Imran lol. And you can't really say he's as good or better than some of the spin ARs here as a spinner.
There's no way I'm saying he's a better bowler than Imran, or a better spinner than than many of those mentioned. I'm just saying he's the GOAT allrounder.

235 wickets - could open/bowl 1st change/4th seamer as a left arm seamer, bowl SLA or left arm legspin (then known as Chinaman), was a gun fielder, and contender for 2nd best bat behind Bradman (some genius innings (including World XI knock), highest test score pre-Lara, 6 6s in 1st class over etc.
 
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Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
200+ test wickets. Bowl avg 32-33. Some specialist pacers have full fledged career with average of 32-33.

Benaud has batting avg of 24. No specialist batsman has a full fledged career with average below 30.
Yeah Richie B was an allrounder.
He had a 1st class average of 36.5. The 50s were a hard decade for test batting.
 

Majestic

U19 Captain
Richie Benaud is definitely an allrounder

How do you not know about the different "bowling allrounder" and "batting allrounder" classifications?

Using your logic Richard Hadlee was not an allrounder lol
Hadlee is also a bowling all rounder. Benaud is a no.8, not a genuine all rounder by any stretch. It's like calling Wasim as all rounder.
 

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