*Official* Fifth Test (The Oval, London) 27-31 July

[flibbertyjibber]

2 completely different things though. Absolutely nothing wrong with the Bairstow stumping, that was a nothing turned into a controversy. The ball change however was a blatant, and decisive, error.

Bairstow incident his fault.

Ball incident being made out it is England's fault yet we did nothing as never chose the ball.

 

[KungFu_Kallis]

Pattinson randomly got the ball to hoop around corners in 2019 after a ball change but he wasn't good enough to make it count. This is such a minor thing to latch on to.

Pattinson

 

[social]

I think the point is that England have been accused of having a moan after the Bairstow incident by the righteous Aussies who would never do such a thing.

Ponting has had a great series and been one of the best commentators, but he's ruining his reputation with this charade.

Ponting isn’t wrong as the condition of the replacement ball bore no resemblance of the original

 

[GotSpin]

Pretty dissapointing result over the series to be honest. England probably outplayed us and to be fair, I can accept it when Root, Stokes, Broad and Woakes put in a brilliant performance but letting guys like Duckett and Crawley score so many runs with the same poor tactics was infuriating

 

[KungFu_Kallis]

Rubbish, that can't account for everything. Just accept it, England scrapped and played a bit smarter to get back from 2-0 down. It's no victory for England but it had some gripping Test cricket and at 0-2, I'll take that-no gloating.

My marriage was really awesome too, apart from the cheating, but I'm sure that didn't affect it that much.

 

[chris.hinton]

Australia in 2027 first test team

1.
2.
3. Marnus Labuschagne
4. Steve Smith (Still think he will go on for 4 more years)
5. Travis Head
6. Cameron Green
7. Alex Carey
8. Pat Cummins
9. Todd Murphy
10.
11.

Australia are going to have a problem..... Who is coming through

 

[Son Of Coco]

Bairstow incident his fault.

Ball incident being made out it is England's fault yet we did nothing as never chose the ball.

Yeah, it's not England's fault. It's those dopey ***** that stand at each end.

















Although, ultimately, it is England's fault.

 

[Son Of Coco]

Australia in 2027 first test team

1.
2.
3. Marnus Labuschagne
4. Steve Smith (Still think he will go on for 4 more years)
5. Travis Head
6. Cameron Green
7. Alex Carey
8. Pat Cummins
9. Todd Murphy
10.
11.

Australia are going to have a problem..... Who is coming through

Doesn't matter. We can beat England at home with 7 players anyway.

 

[trundler]

Pattinson

New balls please! Ball change has big impact on day two

A change of ball had a big impact on day two of the first Ashes Test at Edgbaston.

wisden.com

"The first ball of the 61st over, delivered by James Pattinson, was a full toss which moved drastically on its way through to Tim Paine. The ball swung 6.43 degrees, over two degrees more than any other ball has moved in the air all Test match, and his first two overs with the ‘new’ ball contained seven of the eight balls with most swing in the Australian innings so far."

I was dead on.

 

[Spark]

I actually saw a rumour that the biggest difference wasn't the age but that that particular box had balls from a much older batch, i.e. not from the last two years where the Duke has been a sponge. So more than the age it was the hardness that was different, which would explain why it didn't ever go soft like all the other balls in the series.

 

[social]

Pretty dissapointing result over the series to be honest. England probably outplayed us and to be fair, I can accept it when Root, Stokes, Broad and Woakes put in a brilliant performance but letting guys like Duckett and Crawley score so many runs with the same poor tactics was infuriating

Australia bowled a grand total of 37 maidens in 5 tests

It’s impossible to build pressure if you’re gifting batsmen runs by having 4+ fielders on the boundary every ball

It was just 5 successive Odis and we somehow got away with that ****

 

[Molehill]

Ponting isn’t wrong as the condition of the replacement ball bore no resemblance of the original

He may not be wrong, but **** me he had a good whinge about it.

 

[social]

Australia in 2027 first test team

1.
2.
3. Marnus Labuschagne
4. Steve Smith (Still think he will go on for 4 more years)
5. Travis Head
6. Cameron Green
7. Alex Carey
8. Pat Cummins
9. Todd Murphy
10.
11.

Australia are going to have a problem..... Who is coming through

We have plenty of quicks

Problem is at the top

 

[social]

He may not be wrong, but **** me he had a good whinge about it.

So did Butcher and other Englishmen

The umpiring in this series was a joke for both teams

 

[Molehill]

Australia bowled a grand total of 37 maidens in 5 tests

It’s impossible to build pressure if you’re gifting batsmen runs by having 4+ fielders on the boundary every ball

It was just 5 successive Odis and we somehow got away with that ****

Interesting stat I just read was that Australia actually hit more boundaries in the series than England. But that was down to the field placings, by the 3rd Test England realised you could go at 5 an over by just taking the easy singles that were on offer.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

I actually saw a rumour that the biggest difference wasn't the age but that that particular box had balls from a much older batch, i.e. not from the last two years where the Duke has been a sponge. So more than the age it was the hardness that was different, which would explain why it didn't ever go soft like all the other balls in the series.

Makes sense. The balls from a few years ago kept swinging all the way through

 

[Molehill]

The umpiring in this series was a joke for both teams

Wouldn't disagree with you there. Wilson and Dharmasena really shouldn't be allowed anywhere near big matches.

 

[trundler]

I actually saw a rumour that the biggest difference wasn't the age but that that particular box had balls from a much older batch, i.e. not from the last two years where the Duke has been a sponge. So more than the age it was the hardness that was different, which would explain why it didn't ever go soft like all the other balls in the series.

This is what the Wisden article suggested about the ball Australia got in 2019 too.

"The ball moved so much that some pundits thought it must have been from last year’s batch of Dukes balls, which swung throughout the innings, and which suited England’s seamers so much the ECB requested this year’s Test balls be made to the same specification again. However, it has since been confirmed that it was a ball made this year."

 

[flibbertyjibber]

We have plenty of quicks

Problem is at the top

Yeah that Boland chap was deadly

The worry with the batting is that the only decent looking one is concussion central.

 

[Andy19]

One of worse ashes series in modern era. badly out of form Australian team almost beat peak England at home, playing only 60% of their best cricket!.

Level of play-
England 100%
Australia 60%
Results 2-2

^Bad look for England cricket.

Overall this been failed summer of cricket for England can't even beat ageing Australia team on home soil.

In fact England hasn't won at home against Australia since 2015.

Australia been extremely disappointing in last two matches of the ashes and series overall. However WTC title and retains the ashes mean overall successful tour without Gold star.

Cummins needs to step down as Captain and head to become new Captain. While Australia need to wake up start playing more Aggressive test cricket like England.