Modern Fab 3 (or 4).

[trundler]

miandad averaged 34 in his last 4 years, at least get that right. Thats a big decline, which made his average go from 57 to 52. not sure what your grumpy old ass is throwing fits for.

That's not that bad. I'll admit I was looking at his last 5 years. Miandad had a very long career and his average declined at a rate you'd expect for most great batsmen. He didn't have a lopsided career like Kohli at all.

chappells team was not the best team in the world, West Indies and England were much much ahead, they were par with pak who had imran and miandad etc in the 70s or slightly below them. Those 3 batsmen you named, didnt do anything in odis which chappell carried and even in tests were 42ish avg bats. Respectable but thats really not the greatest support out there. Dont be a biased nostalgia uncle because those stats are comparable to someone like Saleem Malik if that is what you reckon is a consistent support out there.

Australia was the best team in the world before Richards's peak and before Holding established himself. They wiped the floor with England and West Indies around that time. 3 Saleem Malik tier batsmen + an ATG is an exceptional batting line up. It's better than any in the world right now. A great batsman in a weak batting lineup is someone like Hanif in the late 50s or Lara/Tendulkar in the late 90s. Even West Indies only had Richards + 3 guys who averaged low to mid 40s at their best (Greenidge, Haynes, Lloyd/Richardson). Chapell's side won the Ashes home and away before the WSC split and handed WI what would be their last series loss in about 20 years.

All this De Villiers t20 stints has probably made you forget that he doesnt actually just start throwing his bat around 360 in tests. He played at a SR of 55 while the average kept increasing by the year. He had a knack

A strike rate of 55 is exceptionally high. De Villiers was a fluent stroke maker, not someone to grind out runs painstakingly like Boycott. Not was he someone who had a reputation for playing big knocks. Tendulkar was the same way. A fluent stroke maker who didn't go big a whole lot. Root has a below average conversion rate for an ATG batsman and for half his career was notorious for throwing away starts. None of these guys fit alongside Boycott as players of attritional and lengthy innings.

You just don't know a whole lot about cricket.

 

[CartyDurham]

@trundler

“Australia was the best team in the world before Richards's peak and before Holding established himself. They wiped the floor with England and West Indies around that time”

could you help me and state what date period that was ? Thanks

 

[OverratedSanity]

Nonsense to put Chappell in as some lone wolf alongside Lara and Crowe. The Australian batsman that fits best there is obviously Border. His peak years were when australia were at their weakest.

Also what are Gayle and Babar doing there?

 

[OverratedSanity]

@trundler

“Australia was the best team in the world before Richards's peak and before Holding established himself. They wiped the floor with England and West Indies around that time”

could you help me and state what date period that was ? Thanks

Early mid 70s I'm assuming. West Indies "officially" took over as the best team after beating Australia in 79/80, although they might have been a bit better for a couple of years prior too.

 

[Socerer 01]

inb4 Cape Town 2014 and Delhi 2015 are pointed out as examples of Grindy de Villiers

 

[Silver Line]

Nonsense to put Chappell in as some lone wolf alongside Lara and Crowe. The Australian batsman that fits best there is obviously Border. His peak years were when australia were at their weakest.

Also what are Gayle and Babar doing there?

then who are the fifth most iconic of those eras if not babar and gayle?

 

[trundler]

@trundler

“Australia was the best team in the world before Richards's peak and before Holding established himself. They wiped the floor with England and West Indies around that time”

could you help me and state what date period that was ? Thanks

Australia won the Ashes 4-1 in 1974/75 and then retained the Ashes in England with a 1-0 win. That first series win is a pounding, as was their 5-1 win over West Indies at home. Wouldn't you agree that Australia was the best team in the world in the mid-70s?

 

[Socerer 01]

Nonsense to put Chappell in as some lone wolf alongside Lara and Crowe. The Australian batsman that fits best there is obviously Border. His peak years were when australia were at their weakest.

Also what are Gayle and Babar doing there?

Babar is there because he really likes him, same reason why he inserts Rizwan wherever possibly. no doubt it will be justified with their odi and t20 records being great

 

[OverratedSanity]

then who are the fifth most iconic of those eras if not babar and gayle?

Honestly, pre-bazball, it may have been Root for this era. The rest of the lineup was really really mediocre for years.

 

[BazBall21]

Late to this :/

 

[Silver Line]

Younis khan and Kane play at 52 sr and apparently de villiers playing at 55 is absurdly high

 

[Socerer 01]

Younis khan and Kane play at 52 sr and apparently de villiers playing at 55 is absurdly high

nobody calls them grinders or mixis other than you

 

[Silver Line]

Babar is there because he really likes him, same reason why he inserts Rizwan wherever possibly. no doubt it will be justified with their odi and t20 records being great

then go ahead and answer who the fifth options are then champ

 

[trundler]

Younis khan and Kane play at 52 sr and apparently de villiers playing at 55 is absurdly high

Yes, they aren't slow or attritional batsmen either.

 

[CartyDurham]

Australia won the Ashes 4-1 in 1974/75 and then retained the Ashes in England with a 1-0 win. That first series win is a pounding, as was their 5-1 win over West Indies at home. Wouldn't you agree that Australia was the best team in the world in the mid-70s?

I do agree, I was just wondering what that time period was, that’s all

 

[Silver Line]

Yes, they aren't slow or attritional batsmen either.

when did grind mean slow? Grind means hunger

 

[BazBall21]

Grind = attritional for sure.

 

[ZK$]

when did grind mean slow? Grind means hunger

De Villiers and Root don’t have great conversion rates though.

 

[Socerer 01]

then go ahead and answer who the fifth options are then champ

Babar is 4 years younger than the youngest member of the Fab 4 and made his international debut 3 years after the last member of the Fab 4 made his debut

he does not belong to their generation in the 1st place, give him his own one

 

[Silver Line]

Okay then misunderstanding, by grind i meant hunger for runs aka their high run tallies