Spark
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Ball is dead only when both sides + umpires decide it's dead. The umpires hadn't yet and Carey hadn't yet.
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*Official* Second Test (Lord's, London) 28 June–2 July
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TheJediBrah
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Should have said "Well I wouldn't assault people outside nightclubs"
RossTaylorsBox
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So stumpings are not out then
Prince EWS
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No, because then no-one could ever be stumped.
TheJediBrah
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The keeper released it at the stumps as soon as he caught it. Textbook stumping and should not have been any controversy
Neil Young
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Stumpings are generally made when the batsman is still in the throes of playing his shot. Very few are made when the batsman is wandering up to do gardening.
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Spark
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I've seen it happen before, and there's nothing about "in the process of playing a shot" in the rules tbf.
RossTaylorsBox
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OK so what if I charge the bowler and just not play a shot and bend down to tend to the pitch
Neil Young
State Vice-Captain
I'm not arguing that. It was clearly a fair dismissal.
Neil Young
State Vice-Captain
Try it.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
It's totally reasonable to say they shouldn't have appealed or they should have withdrawn it, or even that it was unsportsmanlike. I don't agree but whatever, perfectly valid opinions.
What's totally nonsense though is to claim:
1. That playing within rules you don't like is 'cheating'
2. That the umpire could possibly have not given it under the laws we have
3. That changing the laws to prevent it happening in future would be easy without just removing 'stumped' as a dismissal entirely
What's totally nonsense though is to claim:
1. That playing within rules you don't like is 'cheating'
2. That the umpire could possibly have not given it under the laws we have
3. That changing the laws to prevent it happening in future would be easy without just removing 'stumped' as a dismissal entirely
mackembhoy
International Regular
I've found these interviews from McCullum and Stokes terrible.
It's just sounding delusional now.
It's just sounding delusional now.
RossTaylorsBox
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Yeah you'd be out, regardless of whatever you're doing outside the crease.
Blenkinsop
U19 Vice-Captain
How does the Bairstow dismissal differ from the one where India ran out Ian Bell as he walked off for tea? They withdrew that appeal.
TheJediBrah
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So it's 2am and I'm buzzed how tf am i supposed to sleep now
RossTaylorsBox
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It doesn't, that's why it's funny.
Prince EWS
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I really hate most of what Bazball has become and the narrative surrounding it. I also just straight up don't like McCullum in general.
But having a captain and coach so immediately turn things around for a really struggling team and go on a hot streak of wins only to sack him the moment they lose a series just because it's the Ashes would be totally absurd. Over-focus on the Ashes has held England back as a Test team for as long as I can remember. It'd be totally nonsense to sack him after one series loss.
Prince EWS
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Read a draft thread.
TheJediBrah
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Wut? completely different. You mean the one where they thought it was a boundary and were wandering off for tea? For starters they are different modes of dismissal, this was a stumping and there was no misunderstading as to what happened or where the ball was