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*Official* First Test (Edgbaston, Birmingham) 16–20 June

CartyDurham

International Captain
how many matches has this guy kept?
he's not a test standard wicketkeeper. india also had Dravid- who was a part time keeper, but great batter. But they always had a specialist wicketkeeper in the past e.g. Mongia or Dhoni, Saha etc

this is what happens when u put a no.3 batsman into a wicketkeeping role.
The problem with Bairstow is his lack of game time prior to this test. He’s played twice or so in the last year and none at this level of the game

this is Englands problem as the test squad don’t play many games of red ball domestically and some are playing ipl or sitting on a bench

England in modern times, though at home , play like an overseas team arriving with little practice pre a series

it happens every summer, England start extremely slowly . Australia have to take this test to really punish them
 

halba

International 12th Man
Ball tampering - moeen ali. controversy already


The incident occurred in the 89th over of Australia’s innings, when Ali sprayed a drying agent on his bowling hand at the boundary line before coming on to bowl the next over, thus defying the umpires’ pre-series instructions about not using anything on their hands without prior approval.


Ali admitted the offence and accepted the sanction proposed by Andy Pycroft of the Emirates ICC Elite Panel of Match Referees, so there was no need for a formal hearing.
 

ashley bach

Cricketer Of The Year
Anyone else envisaged Jimbo Anderson retiring at the end of the Ashes stranded on 699 scalps for all time? It's really not that unlikely a scenario.
 

Starfighter

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
When did this ball changing thing even start? Used to be you had to get on with what you had. England are effectively being rewarded for bad bowling, perhaps hence why they seem to exploit it more than every other team put together.
 

halba

International 12th Man
although Foakes would've scored less than Bairstow, one dropped chance at this level is 75-100 runs or so.
 

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When did this ball changing thing even start? Used to be you had to get on with what you had. England are effectively being rewarded for bad bowling, perhaps hence why they seem to exploit it more than every other team put together.
McCullum did it all the time when he was NZ captain, tbf.
 

CartyDurham

International Captain
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ball tampering? Give me strength. The only wrong doing was not asking the umpire. Did Warner smith etc ask the umpire that sandpaper was ok?

it’s nowhere near comparable
 

Burgey

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Bairstow has kept loads in his career and has generally been fine.
Yeah sometimes you just have an average match.

I’d back him to be mostly pretty decent but he’s a bit of a lunger on his footwork, which makes you susceptible to spilling them on the dive because you move late. @JBMAC may have some thoughts on that aspect of his keeping.

I’m probably more interested in whether having to keep over a lot of tests will affect his batting tbh.
 

Spark

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I mean it's against the rules. I'd agree it's not a big deal, but it's very much against the rules.
 

CartyDurham

International Captain
It is a form of ball tampering- a very low grade one, a low grade offense and he's been fined appropriately. They've been warned prior to the Series.
I know that but I can’t agree it’s “ball” tampering Its to harden skin on a bowling finger . Nowhere near the sandpaper incident
 

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