Archer replaced Anderson basically straight away in that series and averaged 20 odd, realistically not facing Anderson would have only inflated the averages in the 1st test (where Wade made a ton and head got 2 scores tbf). What are the 4/5/6/7 averages for the second test going forward, think that'll give a more accurate reflection.
Movement is caused by a difference in drag between the two sides of the ball. There's a few mechanisms by which this can happen.
Doesn’t this assume that Anderson and Archer wouldn’t have played together though? As I don’t think that’s correct.
Yeah it does. Anderson being fit changes alot of things that make the series a headstratcher. What happens In the 1st test? Does archer play the second test if he's not replacing Anderson? If archer doesn't play what happens with smith in that second test? Does he turn that 80* into a big score or get out? Does marnus come in for the 3rd test?
This post is farcical beyond belief, just like your face.
Very interesting, but I was asking how seam is affected by atmospheric conditions. Know anything if that?
I am guessing that it would be indirectly through the influence of temperature and humidity on the ground?
Humidity is definitely a big factor. As a club bowler I never moved the ball a great deal through the air but, on the few days when Perth was experiencing humid weather, I found conditions gave me the swing that I usually lacked.
That's nothing to do with movement off the pitch, which is the point of contention here - that atmospheric conditions affect the amount of seam movement, not swing.
Thank you, I still don't get why people are confused about the point being contested.
I think the most interesting Test is the First if Anderson didn't get injured. If Australia are bowled out for say 170, do they make 470 in their second dig against a full strength bowling line up and faced with a bigger deficit. I suspect not, and then it alters the whole dynamic of the series.
Anderson's record in opposition's second dig around that time was surprisingly poor for no explainable reason right? I remember it being discussed when India where in England in 22. If Anderson is taking his wickets at 40/45 and the deck still flattens out I think Australia make enough to bowl England out in the 4th innings, but that's pure conjecture.
The other aspect is that even if he's not taking wickets, he's at least taking workload off the others who may. But it's all pure conjecture. I still remain convinced that that was as poor an England team that has competed in a Home Ashes series this Century. That they forced a draw is still baffling.
I wasn't referring to movement off the pitch. I simply was expressing my observations of the atmospheric conditions on the degree of swing. This is a view I shared with Bob Massie, with whom I had the pleasure of opening the bowling. Bob had returned from England and apparently lost the degree of swing for which he was famous. He blamed that loss to the drier Perth air in summer.
The original point of contention was. If you and some other posters had paid more attention, you'd've realised.
That's still anecdote and Massie was not known to swing the ball much in most conditions after '72. The day-to-day and hour-to-hour variations in humidity would be far more important than any perceived average.
I had been paying attention thank you. I Was simply commenting on other posts regarding movement through the air and atmospheric conditions.
Dude, the comment you were replying to was about the alleged affect of atmospheric conditions on seam claimed by Ashes81.