*Official* Australia in India 2023

[trundler]

The Pindi and the Ahmedabad pitches both were worse than Gabba or Indore.

The Ahmedabad was fine for a change imo

 

[honestbharani]

The Ahmedabad was fine for a change imo

I dunno man.. it was an overcorrection. I suppose in isolation, the indore pitch was the worst of the series but I still think the rating given now is actually fairer than what was given at the time.

 

[Ashes81]

How about Afghanistan's debut test? Or to go to the other extreme, how about the Rawalpindi pitch? Was that a poor pitch or were they just thoroughly outclassed? Think results based analysis like this can be deceptive. I agree that both the GABBA and Indore pitch were subpar but there should be a more foolproof way to gauge how poor a pitch is than match length surely.

Obviously if one team is outclassed then that needs to be taken in to account when assessing a pitch.

But if you have 2 fairly evenly matched teams, who both struggle to score runs, and the match barely makes day 3, then it's pretty likely that the pitch is sub standard.

 

[Ashes81]

Ah suddenly the scores matter more than the number of days.

Of course the scores matter when assessing a pitch.

If a team scores 400 then it can't have been that poor a pitch. It may favour one side over the other, but that doesn't make it a poor pitch.

The Nagpur test in this series didn't last long but India scored 400 so you can't point any fingers at the pitch, it was just that the Aussies couldn't cope with it.

The Lords 2018 test was the same. India couldn't handle the conditions well but England could. That doesn't mean the pitch was poor.

 

[Xix2565]

The Lords 2018 test was the same. India couldn't handle the conditions well but England could. That doesn't mean the pitch was poor.

India literally batted in the worst conditions though. You act like in England things remain consistent when that isn't the case though. If England got sent in then they were just as likely to roll over like India. Like 58 all out vs NZ in 2018. Nagpur had the conditions remain similar for the duration of the game.

 

[Xix2565]

Or the Lords test in 2018 in England? But hey, too much seam/swing = good, too much spin = bad. coz, you know.........

Wanderers 2018 escaping slander here smh.

Why on earth is DRS tech still not being used for this? The appeal process is legit just two dudes watching footage from the game. We have the tech to know how much the average ball has "misbehaved" based on Hawkeye data.

Because they're too lazy. Only reason that doesn't involve descending into dubious mudslinging and questioning of various people's braincells.

 

[Socerer 01]

Wanderers 2018 escaping slander here smh.


Because they're too lazy. Only reason that doesn't involve descending into dubious mudslinging and questioning of various people's braincells.

was the Wanderers pitch the one where the Proteas didn’t want to come out and bat because the ball was bouncing dangerously and erratically? didn’t that get a bad rating or am I remembering things wrongly

 

[Xix2565]

was the Wanderers pitch the one where the Proteas didn’t want to come out and bat because the ball was bouncing dangerously and erratically? didn’t that get a bad rating or am I remembering things wrongly

Oh it got a Poor rating as deserved, but people seem to want to debate edge cases over and over again despite the pointlessness.

It was also another in a long line of doctored pitches Faf and co asked for that seems to never be brought up when it comes to discussing pitch preparations and intents.

 

[Spark]

Not really related but this discussion reminds me anyway - hey @R!TTER what happened to those massive over rate penalties you promised me were imminent

 

[Socerer 01]

Oh it got a Poor rating as deserved, but people seem to want to debate edge cases over and over again despite the pointlessness.

It was also another in a long line of doctored pitches Faf and co asked for that seems to never be brought up when it comes to discussing pitch preparations and intents.

idk about the latter Faf and Gibson were both memed on for all the green lushness they paraded as pitches through their time

 

[Spark]

Faf du Plessis, massive hypocrite? Say it ain't so

 

[Line and Length]

Having an over-rule by anyone who didn't witness proceedings first hand is questionable. It becomes apparent which part of the cricketing world is steering the ICC ship.

 

[the big bambino]

India literally batted in the worst conditions though. You act like in England things remain consistent when that isn't the case though. If England got sent in then they were just as likely to roll over like India. Like 58 all out vs NZ in 2018. Nagpur had the conditions remain similar for the duration of the game.

but doesn’t that prove his point? The English pitch was consistent with the type that can occur there. One team maybe disadvantaged batting in unfavourable conditions but that could’ve been the home side as much as the tourists. Whereas nagpur was designed to favour the home team throughout.

 

[Xix2565]

but doesn’t that prove his point? The English pitch was consistent with the type that can occur there. One team maybe disadvantaged batting in unfavourable conditions but that could’ve been the home side as much as the tourists. Whereas nagpur was designed to favour the home team throughout.

Not really? Nagpur favoured India because of the difference in the same set of skills tested between both teans. Lords didn't really test England with the bat when it was seaming and swinging at its worst, while aiding their bowlers when they were bowling.

 

[Spark]

Nagpur was fine. Had Australia been match ready they would have gotten a decent score (and stopped India getting 400). They weren't, so they didn't.

 

[the big bambino]

Which pitch was rated poor?

 

[Spark]

Which pitch was rated poor?

Indore.

 

[Daemon]

I’d still be hurting as an Australian fan. Huge advantage in that second test just completely snatched away by Axar. That was basically the series right there.

Very reminiscent of the Sam Curran ****blocks in England.

 

[the big bambino]

Not really? Nagpur favoured India because of the difference in the same set of skills tested between both teans. Lords didn't really test England with the bat when it was seaming and swinging at its worst, while aiding their bowlers when they were bowling.

but with luck at lords the touring side could’ve received the benefit so wasn’t prepared to favour one team. Whereas we all know India are distinctly stronger in slow bowling and the pitch was prepared to accomodate that advantage and throughout the game. Meaning there was nothing the touring side could do courtesy of luck or strategy to overcome that advantage.

 

[Sunil1z]

but with luck at lords the touring side could’ve received the benefit so wasn’t prepared to favour one team. Whereas we all know India are distinctly stronger in slow bowling and the pitch was prepared to accomodate that advantage and throughout the game. Meaning there was nothing the touring side could do courtesy of luck or strategy to overcome that advantage.

What ?
Nagpur pitch was the best pitch of the series. You were hammered because you didn’t prepare for the Test .