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Stumped!
- Thread starter GHick405
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StephenZA
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Both have officially been sold now... now its just what they will go for.
SillyCowCorner1
Moooo
Ataraxia win by 190 runs.
GG’s youth team is frail and with a couple of retirements coming up within the next few weeks, it’s gonna be bleak for those kids.
GG’s youth team is frail and with a couple of retirements coming up within the next few weeks, it’s gonna be bleak for those kids.
cnerd123
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Always a challenge managing the transition from one generation to the next
That's why I try to keep a range of ages in the Dev team. Easier with ZCC, tougher with FHK where I need to prioritise talent over progression. Can't buy Dev specialists off the TM.
SillyCowCorner1
Moooo
On the brighter side of things, all the guys who are in the squad have amazing potentials in their respective disciplines...
cnerd123
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there are broadly two ways to play this game.
1) Recruit and develop a generation of talented players and ride on their success until they age out, first from Dev and then eventually Senior cricket. Once they are done, use the wealth you've built on the back of their success and invest into recruiting the next generation of stars. This is a bit boom or bust, and requires a bit of flexibility to build teams around the talent you happen to have, with some investment needed into 'role players' to fill the gaps.
2) Use your Dev team to groom players to specifically replace the oldest players in your senior squad. This way you can maintain a consistent system and structure with your playing XI, but the strength of different aspects within it will go up and down as you transition to the newer faces and depending on the quality of player you are able to find for each role. Also require meticulous planning with recruitment and some luck on the TM/Youth Academy to find appropriate replacements in a timely manner.
FHK does option 1) because we're home grown, we have no other choice. ZCC does method 2) with varying degrees of success. I think we're pretty stable at this moment, the last gen of youngsters we brought in have now found their feet, and we've got some decent substitutes for Heshan and Raun coming through. We've gone bat-deep lately with Ahsan and Younis bowling a lot of overs, but we might change back to a more orthodox 5-pronged bowling attack since we've got some good talent coming through the Dev system.
SillyCowCorner1
Moooo
Wow, this is gold coming from a veteran of Stumped. I'll bookmark this and follow the option I am more comfortable with. GG's got a good senior team (at least that is what I think.)
Charlie B
U19 Vice-Captain
Agree with you. In BT you often see folks build up a great big nest egg and then blow it in sales and unsustainable wages for a season or two so they win big and then implode - that is skilful enough but I think this is a long term game and the skill is to be sustainable to play for 10 years as the gnarled vets of this game do. Balancing your books and playing the game to win things is much more of a challenge than one big blow out fest and then turning up and starting all over again
StephenZA
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I think some of that has to do with how your scouting goes... unless you consistently keep monies in the bank, which is difficult if you are newer to the game. Regions has an impact as well because the chances of you getting into higher paying divisions does make a difference. I've noticed a clear effect of that between TNT and TMOs.
I also just think you sometimes have to cut your losses. If one or two decent/good players are not enough then you need to maybe sell and keep developing for the next decent team. Holding onto better players that are not enough to drag the team up overall means that their cost is a drag and as well as losing their overall value as they get older... hence my selling Burger and Kock. What are they going to add to the team in 2 seasons time and is it sufficient to pay their wage and lose out on their higher value now?
I also just think you sometimes have to cut your losses. If one or two decent/good players are not enough then you need to maybe sell and keep developing for the next decent team. Holding onto better players that are not enough to drag the team up overall means that their cost is a drag and as well as losing their overall value as they get older... hence my selling Burger and Kock. What are they going to add to the team in 2 seasons time and is it sufficient to pay their wage and lose out on their higher value now?
cnerd123
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ZCC have found it basically impossible to get back into Div 1 since the regions were merged. The one time we got back up we got sent straight back down. Our Dev boys fell down into Div 3 too but I think we're good enough now to hang in Div 2 again.
So while we've been good at holding our level, I don't quite know what I need to do to climb back to Div 1. Our bank balance is stable and barely growing, so we're not really building a nest egg to blow on a title run either. I feel like we're just waiting for a lucky season where we have a deep cup run, or somehow sneak into Div 1, or find some crazy young talent to build a side around.
FHK, while in an easier region, have made it to Div 1 in both T20 and SOD on the back of this golden gen. We failed to get back there in SOD after relegation but are staying strong in the T20. We've also got an incredible nest egg. Also worth noting FHK's success in the CWC of late!
Golden gen seems the best way forward honestly. I just hope ZCC uncovers some talent soon!
So while we've been good at holding our level, I don't quite know what I need to do to climb back to Div 1. Our bank balance is stable and barely growing, so we're not really building a nest egg to blow on a title run either. I feel like we're just waiting for a lucky season where we have a deep cup run, or somehow sneak into Div 1, or find some crazy young talent to build a side around.
FHK, while in an easier region, have made it to Div 1 in both T20 and SOD on the back of this golden gen. We failed to get back there in SOD after relegation but are staying strong in the T20. We've also got an incredible nest egg. Also worth noting FHK's success in the CWC of late!
Golden gen seems the best way forward honestly. I just hope ZCC uncovers some talent soon!
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SillyCowCorner1
Moooo
Our skipper, Jamil Gul, is set to play his final DEV match for Mooo today.
He is 1 wicket away from 100 wickets in this level of cricket.
He's also our skipper in senior OD as well.
He is 1 wicket away from 100 wickets in this level of cricket.
He's also our skipper in senior OD as well.
SillyCowCorner1
Moooo
And there it is, 100 wickets in Dev cricket for Jamil Gul
Charlie B
U19 Vice-Captain
It is certainly a challenge enough to even stay in Div 2 !! I think selling Burger and Kock is not giving up - and starting again, you are sustainable and have other fish in the frying pan- the monies will no doubt be used to buy one better player or into DEV players or squirreled away for such opportunities as and when they become available-
ataraxia
International Coach
My goals were a bit off track, some might say. A quick review –S33 will challenge this low-ceiling team. Season goals:
- remain in DEV 2.2
- remain in SOD 1.1
- win T20 1.1
Smashed DEV 2.2 to win it.
Came 2nd in SOD 1.1 (don't ask me how).
Came dead last in T20 1.1. Hmm.
Player of the season has been awarded to Rehman Kaiser, who has really come of age as a leggie. In spite of senior spinners around him, he was the best bowler this season – an excellent performance. 2.2 WPM Richard Daly ran a close second.
This season, 34!
- come top 3 in OD 1.1
- promote out of T20 2.1
- remain in DEV 1.1
- and I'd like to foray into Cup R4, please
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ataraxia
International Coach
AX-W season 33 review
Could not gain traction in either senior format, alas. But had a terrific Dev campaign ultimately resulting in 2nd place, and promotion! Scored bucketloads of runs, many off the bat of Felix O'Callaghan – the absolute Dev h4x he is.
Player of the season – Afzaal ul-Haq. A delightful return to test match batting, and an incredible season average for the affiliate, of 43.48.
Season 34 goals:
Could not gain traction in either senior format, alas. But had a terrific Dev campaign ultimately resulting in 2nd place, and promotion! Scored bucketloads of runs, many off the bat of Felix O'Callaghan – the absolute Dev h4x he is.
Player of the season – Afzaal ul-Haq. A delightful return to test match batting, and an incredible season average for the affiliate, of 43.48.
Season 34 goals:
- Promote in one senior format
- Remain in DEV 1.1
ataraxia
International Coach
Hmm. I mean, I'll take 5 points (totally expected it after the first innings?) – but maaaaaan. tbf the conditions could hardly be any friendlier to a slogfest.
