The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[CricketFan90s]

This would make some kind of sense if you didn't pick Hammond, but picking him just makes this side beyond stupid.

I just choose most of the players after 1960s but Hammond was a Batsmen who was a good part time bowler so went for him. But It makes sense why you made that statement.

 

[Line and Length]

It makes sense why you made that statement.

Unlike your selections (specifically your EngXI)..
Ian Chappell once said, "The problem with common sense is it's not very common."

 

[Fuller Pilch]

You should also not forget that there are 2 different type of Spinners in this Team that makes other teams have sleepless nights.

They also have all Pakistan Star Batsmen Anwar, Hanif, Younis, Inzamam, Miandad so its a formidable side.

Conway/Dempster > Anwar
Turner > Hanif
Williamson = Younis
Crowe > Inzy
Taylor < Miandad
Watling > Sarfaraz

I admit you have a better bowling attack, but we have Sir Richard the GOAT.

 

[Red]

It’s good to have Dagwood Ahmed back on the forums

 

[CricketFan90s]

Conway/Dempster > Anwar
Turner > Hanif
Williamson = Younis
Crowe > Inzy
Taylor < Miandad
Watling > Sarfaraz

I admit you have a better bowling attack, but we have Sir Richard the GOAT.

Imran can handle him

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Imran can handle him

NZ also has a variety of spinners: Vettori - slow left arm straight, Williamson - right arm off spin chucking, and Taylor - right arm off spin pies

 

[trundler]

Conway/Dempster > Anwar

Lol no

Turner > Hanif

Not even close

Williamson = Younis

That's hilarious

Crowe > Inzy

This one's at least close I guess

Taylor < Miandad
Watling > Sarfaraz

No arguments there.

 

[ataraxia]

Lol no

Not even close

That's hilarious

This one's at least close I guess

No arguments there.

I was waiting for this from you lol

 

[CricketFan90s]

My England XI is a well balanced side
1) 2 Openers - Gooch* and Cook
2) No3 - Hammond
3) Middle Order - Pietersen and Root
4) Wicket Keeper - Knott
5) All Rounders - Botham and Flintoff
6) Spinner - Underwood
7) Fast Bowlers - Trueman and Anderson

 

[CricketFan90s]

NZ also has a variety of spinners: Vettori - slow left arm straight, Williamson - right arm off spin chucking, and Taylor - right arm off spin pies

they are not that much effective except Vettori

 

[trundler]

they are not that much effective except Vettori

Including*

 

[Line and Length]

My England XI is a well balanced side
1) 2 Openers - Gooch* and Cook
2) No3 - Hammond
3) Middle Order - Pietersen and Root
4) Wicket Keeper - Knott
5) All Rounders - Botham and Flintoff
6) Spinner - Underwood
7) Fast Bowlers - Trueman and Anderson

But it would be stronger with a couple of openers from Hobbs/Hutton/Sutcliffe. I also think you only need one of Botham/Flintoff (obviously the former) as you have Hammond as your 5th bowler. Barrington or Compton spring to mind.

 

[CricketFan90s]

90 Overs a Day
Anderson - 17 Overs
Trueman - 17 Overs
Botham - 16 Overs
Underwood - 21 Overs
Flintoff - 14 Overs
Hammond - 5 Overs

 

[CricketFan90s]

But it would be stronger with a couple of openers from Hobbs/Hutton/Sutcliffe. I also think you only need one of Botham/Flintoff (obviously the former) as you have Hammond as your 5th bowler. Barrington or Compton spring to mind.

Hammond bowled but not an efficient Wicket taker. So going with 6 bowlers as the Opposition Teams are Stronger.

 

[Red]

Trumper
Simpson
Bradman
G.Chappell
Smith
Miller/Border/Harvey
Gilchrist
Warne
Lindwall/OReilly/Davidson
Lillee
McGrath

let’s be honest, no one is beating this combo

 

[Line and Length]

My England XI is a well balanced side
1) 2 Openers - Gooch* and Cook
2) No3 - Hammond
3) Middle Order - Pietersen and Root
4) Wicket Keeper - Knott
5) All Rounders - Botham and Flintoff
6) Spinner - Underwood
7) Fast Bowlers - Trueman and Anderson

If this was your 1st XI I think a pretty good 2nd XI would be:
1) 2 Openers - Hobbs and Sutcliffe
2) No3 - Hutton
3) Middle Order - Barrington, Compton, May
4) Wicket Keeper - Ames
5) All Rounder - Stokes
6) Spinner - Laker
7) Fast Bowlers - Statham and Willis

Barrington and Compton combine for the 5th and 6th bowling spot.

 

[Line and Length]

Trumper
Simpson
Bradman
G.Chappell
Smith
Miller/Border/Harvey
Gilchrist
Warne
Lindwall/OReilly/Davidson
Lillee
McGrath

let’s be honest, no one is beating this combo

No arguments from me (though I'd bat Lindwall or Davidson above Warne).

 

[CricketFan90s]

If this was your 1st XI I think a pretty good 2nd XI would be:
1) 2 Openers - Hobbs and Sutcliffe
2) No3 - Hutton
3) Middle Order - Barrington, Compton, May
4) Wicket Keeper - Ames
5) All Rounder - Stokes
6) Spinner - Laker
7) Fast Bowlers - Statham and Willis

Barrington and Compton combine for the 5th and 6th bowling spot.

Stokes bowled only 13.34 Overs per innings and on the other hand Flintoff bowled 18.20 Overs per innings so i went for Flintoff.
Having Willis, Statham, Laker and Stokes to beat All Time XI Teams is not sufficient in a Test Match.

 

[CricketFan90s]

Trumper
Simpson
Bradman
G.Chappell
Smith
Miller/Border/Harvey
Gilchrist
Warne
Lindwall/OReilly/Davidson
Lillee
McGrath

let’s be honest, no one is beating this combo

Its a good one but My XI is better
1) Langer 2) Hayden 3) Bradman 4) Smith 5) Waugh* 6) Miller 7) Gilchrist+ 8) Davidson 9) Warne 10) Lillee 11) McGrath
@Coronis included Miller and Davidson i liked this idea.

 

[CricAddict]

Even a atg state side can beat that Pakistan XI. Do you really think the Pakistan team can win against nsw atg XI?